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Originally posted by steevie
Gosh where do I begin … I need to give it up all together …
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… BUT what if tommorow comes and like in the past I get the urge and do none of what I planned and go and play the slots …Good morning Steevie, my name is Larry (screen name paul315) and I am a Compulsive Gambler, my last bet was Aug 13, 2009. Welcome to GT, it is a place you can find help; you will also find the friendship of others that have experienced all the things that you have and have felt all the same hurt and guilt – you are not alone in your trouble.
Where do you begin, you began six or so months ago by coming truthful to your husband and starting a recovery program through therapy. You can now continue that process and be restored to a normal way of thinking and living; the best way would be following the same process, once again being open to your husband and staying true to your recovery, and stop being secretive.
To copy a post from another member, "I will say that the secrets keep us sick. As long as you continue to *** your way through life when it comes to gambling, you will remain in a cycle where you hate yourself so you gamble, you gamble and you hate yourself, and on and on it goes. I’m never going to say that quitting is easy, but it wasn’t as hard as I thought. I only had to white-knuckle it through the urges, and then I was okay. Give in to them…and I was right back on the treadmill."
I have also found this information about telling a spouse from different others. Telling a spouse or significant other is a hard thing to do, mostly because you are also again admitting to yourself what you have done. But "admitting to ourselves and to another human" is one of the steps we must take to recover. In doing so, it might be best to do it now, as soon as possible – not convenient. Do it before they find out on their own – and they will, if not already known or highly suspected -, thus adding to any mistrust you may face. You are at a good stage having started with a recovery process by being here, showing them that you are sincere in facing your need to stop. If and when you do this, it is vital to be completely honest with them (and yourself). Let them know of your total addiction and the reason for the lack of money. Do not hold anything back for later, telling a little at a time causes additional mistrust each time that you spill out a little more of the story, you will then have to face another barrage of questions and new mistrust. Each time you revise your story they will just think, "what next, what else are you hiding".
Keep up with your visits here and placing barriers to help during the urges; if the urges become stronger, place stronger barriers and remember that the urge will not hurt you, but, giving in to them will cause more trouble. Do not gamble for anything for one day at a time, and you will find that the urges get less intense.
God’s speed, use your Higher Power to guide nd strengthen you.
Larry"Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – With the help of a Higher Power, My 3G’s – God, GA, and GT, I will continue to be gambling free.Publicado originalmente por steevie
Dios, ¿por dónde empiezo? Necesito renunciar a todo junto …
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… PERO, ¿qué pasa si mañana llega y, como en el pasado, siento la necesidad y no hago nada de lo que planeé y voy a jugar a las tragamonedas …Buenos días Steevie, mi nombre es Larry (nombre de pantalla paul315) y soy un jugador compulsivo, mi última apuesta fue el 13 de agosto de 2009. Bienvenido a GT, es un lugar donde puedes encontrar ayuda; también encontrará la amistad de otras personas que han experimentado todas las cosas que usted tiene y han sentido el mismo dolor y culpa; usted no está solo en sus problemas.
Por dónde empezar, empezó hace unos seis meses siendo sincero con su marido y comenzando un programa de recuperación a través de la terapia. Ahora puede continuar ese proceso y ser restaurado a una forma normal de pensar y vivir; la mejor manera sería seguir el mismo proceso, una vez más estar abierto a su esposo y mantenerse fiel a su recuperación, y dejar de ser reservado.
Para copiar una publicación de otro miembro, "Diré que los secretos nos mantienen enfermos. Mientras continúes tu camino a través de la vida en lo que respecta al juego, permanecerás en un ciclo en el que te odias a ti mismo. jugar, jugar y odiarse a sí mismo, y así sucesivamente. Nunca voy a decir que dejar de fumar es fácil, pero no fue tan difícil como pensaba. , y luego estaba bien. Ríndete a ellos … y estaba de vuelta en la cinta de correr ".
También encontré esta información sobre cómo distinguir a un cónyuge de otros diferentes. Decirle a su cónyuge o pareja es algo difícil de hacer, principalmente porque también está admitiendo nuevamente ante sí mismo lo que ha hecho. Pero "admitirnos ante nosotros mismos y ante otro ser humano" es uno de los pasos que debemos dar para recuperarnos. Al hacerlo, sería mejor hacerlo ahora, lo antes posible, no es conveniente. Hágalo antes de que se enteren por sí mismos, y lo harán, si aún no se sabe o se sospecha mucho, lo que aumentará la desconfianza que pueda enfrentar. Estás en una buena etapa, habiendo comenzado con un proceso de recuperación al estar aquí, mostrándoles que eres sincero al enfrentar tu necesidad de parar. Si hace esto y cuando lo haga, es vital ser completamente honesto con ellos (y con usted mismo). Hágales saber de su adicción total y la razón de la falta de dinero. No guardes nada para más adelante, contarlo poco a poco genera desconfianza adicional cada vez que desparramas un poco más de la historia, luego tendrás que enfrentarte a otro aluvión de preguntas y una nueva desconfianza. Cada vez que revise su historia, ellos simplemente pensarán, "qué sigue, qué más estás escondiendo".Manténgase al día con sus visitas aquí y coloque barreras para ayudar durante los impulsos; Si los impulsos se vuelven más fuertes, coloque barreras más fuertes y recuerde que el impulso no lo lastimará, pero ceder a ellos causará más problemas. No apueste por nada durante un día a la vez, y encontrará que los impulsos se vuelven menos intensos.
La velocidad de Dios, usa tu Poder Superior para guiarte y fortalecerte.
Larry "El segundo día es otro día atrasado": con la ayuda de un poder superior, mis 3G, Dios, GA y GT, seguiré libre de juegos de azar.Αρχικά δημοσιεύτηκε από steevie
Θεέ μου από πού να ξεκινήσω … πρέπει να τα παρατήσω όλα μαζί …
και,
… ΑΛΛΑ τι γίνεται αν έρθει αύριο και όπως στο παρελθόν μου έρχεται η παρόρμηση και δεν κάνω τίποτα από αυτά που είχα προγραμματίσει και πάω να παίξω κουλοχέρηδες …Καλημέρα Steevie, με λένε Larry (όνομα οθόνης paul315) και είμαι ψυχαναγκαστικός παίκτης, το τελευταίο μου στοίχημα ήταν στις 13 Αυγούστου 2009. Καλώς ορίσατε στο GT, είναι ένα μέρος όπου μπορείτε να βρείτε βοήθεια. θα βρείτε επίσης τη φιλία των άλλων που έχουν βιώσει όλα τα πράγματα που έχετε και έχουν νιώσει το ίδιο κακό και ενοχές – δεν είστε μόνοι στον μπελά σας.
Από πού ξεκινάτε, ξεκινήσατε πριν από περίπου έξι μήνες, όταν ήσασταν ειλικρινείς στον σύζυγό σας και ξεκινήσατε ένα πρόγραμμα αποκατάστασης μέσω θεραπείας. Μπορείτε τώρα να συνεχίσετε αυτή τη διαδικασία και να αποκατασταθείτε σε έναν φυσιολογικό τρόπο σκέψης και ζωής. ο καλύτερος τρόπος θα ήταν να ακολουθήσετε την ίδια διαδικασία, για άλλη μια φορά να είστε ανοιχτοί στον σύζυγό σας και να μείνετε πιστοί στην ανάρρωσή σας και να σταματήσετε να είστε μυστικοπαθείς.
Για να αντιγράψετε μια ανάρτηση από άλλο μέλος, "Θα πω ότι τα μυστικά μας αρρωσταίνουν. Όσο συνεχίζετε να κάνετε τον δρόμο σας στη ζωή όταν πρόκειται για τον τζόγο, θα παραμείνετε σε έναν κύκλο όπου μισείτε τον εαυτό σας. παίζετε, στοιχηματίζετε και μισείτε τον εαυτό σας, και συνεχίζει. Δεν πρόκειται ποτέ να πω ότι η εγκατάλειψη είναι εύκολη, αλλά δεν ήταν τόσο δύσκολη όσο νόμιζα. Έπρεπε μόνο να το ασπρίσω μέσα από τις ορμές , και τότε ήμουν εντάξει. Υποχωρήστε τους … και ήμουν αμέσως πίσω στον διάδρομο. "
Έχω επίσης βρει αυτές τις πληροφορίες σχετικά με τη διάκριση ενός συζύγου από διαφορετικούς άλλους. Το να λες σε έναν σύζυγο ή σε κάποιον άλλο είναι δύσκολο να το κάνεις, κυρίως επειδή παραδέχεσαι και πάλι στον εαυτό σου αυτό που έχεις κάνει. Αλλά το «να παραδεχτούμε στον εαυτό μας και σε έναν άλλο άνθρωπο» είναι ένα από τα βήματα που πρέπει να κάνουμε για να συνέλθουμε. Με αυτόν τον τρόπο, ίσως είναι καλύτερο να το κάνετε τώρα, το συντομότερο δυνατό – όχι βολικό. Κάντε το πριν το μάθουν μόνοι τους – και θα το κάνουν, αν δεν είναι ήδη γνωστό ή είναι πολύ ύποπτο -, προσθέτοντας έτσι σε κάθε δυσπιστία που μπορεί να αντιμετωπίσετε. Βρίσκεστε σε καλό στάδιο αφού ξεκινήσατε με μια διαδικασία ανάκαμψης με το να είστε εδώ, δείχνοντάς τους ότι είστε ειλικρινείς όταν αντιμετωπίζετε την ανάγκη σας να σταματήσετε. Εάν και όταν το κάνετε αυτό, είναι ζωτικής σημασίας να είστε απόλυτα ειλικρινείς μαζί τους (και με τον εαυτό σας). Ενημερώστε τους για τον συνολικό εθισμό σας και τον λόγο της έλλειψης χρημάτων. Μην κρατάτε τίποτα για αργότερα, λέγοντας λίγο κάθε φορά προκαλεί πρόσθετη δυσπιστία κάθε φορά που ξεδιπλώνετε λίγο περισσότερο την ιστορία, τότε θα πρέπει να αντιμετωπίσετε ένα άλλο μπαράζ ερωτήσεων και νέα δυσπιστία. Κάθε φορά που αναθεωρείτε την ιστορία σας θα σκέφτονται, "τι μετά, τι άλλο κρύβετε".Συνεχίστε με τις επισκέψεις σας εδώ και βάζοντας εμπόδια για βοήθεια κατά τη διάρκεια των παροτρύνσεων. αν οι παρορμήσεις γίνουν ισχυρότερες, τοποθετήστε ισχυρότερα εμπόδια και θυμηθείτε ότι η παρόρμηση δεν θα σας βλάψει, αλλά η υποχώρησή τους θα προκαλέσει περισσότερα προβλήματα. Μην παίζετε με τίποτα για μια μέρα τη φορά και θα διαπιστώσετε ότι οι ορμές γίνονται λιγότερο έντονες.
Ταχύτητα του Θεού, χρησιμοποίησε την Ανώτερη Δύναμή σου για να σε καθοδηγήσει και να σε ενδυναμώσει.
Larry "Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – Με τη βοήθεια μιας Ανώτερης Δύναμης, των 3G μου – God, GA και GT, θα συνεχίσω να παίζω τζόγο δωρεάν.Първоначално публикувано от steevie
Боже, откъде да започна … Трябва да се откажа от всичко заедно …
и,
… но какво ще стане, ако дойде утре и като в миналото получих желание и не направих нищо от това, което планирах, и отидох да играя на слотове …Добро утро, Стийви, казвам се Лари (екранно име paul315) и съм компулсивен комарджия, последният ми залог беше 13 август 2009 г. Добре дошли в GT, това е място, където можете да намерите помощ; ще откриете и приятелството на другите, които са преживели всички неща, които имате и сте изпитали същата болка и вина – не сте сами в бедата си.
Откъде да започнете, започнахте преди около шест месеца, като дойдете истински пред съпруга си и стартирахте програма за възстановяване чрез терапия. Вече можете да продължите този процес и да се върнете към нормален начин на мислене и живот; най -добрият начин би бил да следвате същия процес, отново да бъдете отворени към съпруга си и да останете верни на възстановяването си, и да спрете да бъдете потайни.
За да копирате публикация от друг член: „Ще кажа, че тайните ни държат болни. Докато продължавате да прокарвате пътя си през живота, когато става въпрос за хазарт, ще останете в цикъл, в който се мразите, така че хазарт, вие залагате и мразите себе си и така нататък. Никога няма да кажа, че отказването е лесно, но не беше толкова трудно, колкото си мислех. , и тогава бях добре. Отстъпи им … и се върнах веднага на бягащата пътека. "
Също така открих тази информация за разказване на съпруг от различни други. Разказването на съпруг или друг важен човек е трудно да се направи, най -вече защото отново отново си признавате какво сте направили. Но „признаването пред себе си и пред друг човек“ е една от стъпките, които трябва да предприемем, за да се възстановим. При това може би е най -добре да го направите сега, възможно най -скоро – не е удобно. Направете го, преди да разберат сами – и те ще го направят, ако вече не е известно или силно подозирано – като по този начин увеличите недоверието, с което може да се сблъскате. Вие сте на добър етап, като сте започнали с процес на възстановяване, като сте тук, показвайки им, че сте искрено изправени пред нуждата си да спрете. Ако и когато направите това, е жизненоважно да бъдете напълно честни с тях (и със себе си). Кажете им за пълната ви зависимост и причината за липсата на пари. Не задържайте нищо за по -късно, като разказването малко по малко предизвиква допълнително недоверие всеки път, когато разлеете малко повече от историята, тогава ще трябва да се сблъскате с поредния порой от въпроси и ново недоверие. Всеки път, когато преразглеждате историята си, те просто ще си помислят „какво следва, какво друго криеш“.Продължавайте с посещенията си тук и поставянето на бариери в помощ по време на поривите; ако поривите станат по -силни, поставете по -силни бариери и не забравяйте, че поривът няма да ви навреди, но отстъпването им ще доведе до повече проблеми. Не залагайте на нищо за един ден наведнъж и ще откриете, че поривите стават по -малко интензивни.
Божията скорост, използвай своята Висша Сила, за да те напътства и да те укрепи.
Лари „Вторият ден е още един ден зад гърба“ – С помощта на по -висша сила, моите 3G – Бог, GA и GT, ще продължа да не играя хазарт.मूल रूप से स्टीवी द्वारा पोस्ट किया गया
भगवान मैं कहां से शुरू करूं … मुझे इसे सब एक साथ देने की जरूरत है …
तथा,
… लेकिन क्या होगा अगर कल आता है और अतीत की तरह मुझे आग्रह मिलता है और जो मैंने योजना बनाई है उसमें से कोई भी नहीं करता है और जाकर स्लॉट खेलता है …सुप्रभात स्टीवी, मेरा नाम लैरी है (स्क्रीन नाम paul315) और मैं एक बाध्यकारी जुआरी हूं, मेरी आखिरी शर्त अगस्त 13, 2009 थी। जीटी में आपका स्वागत है, यह एक ऐसी जगह है जहां आप मदद पा सकते हैं; आप दूसरों की मित्रता भी पाएंगे जिन्होंने उन सभी चीजों का अनुभव किया है जो आपके पास हैं और सभी को समान आहत और अपराधबोध महसूस हुआ है – आप अपनी परेशानी में अकेले नहीं हैं।
आप कहां से शुरू करते हैं, आपने छह या इतने महीने पहले अपने पति के पास सच्चे आकर और चिकित्सा के माध्यम से एक वसूली कार्यक्रम शुरू करके शुरू किया था। अब आप उस प्रक्रिया को जारी रख सकते हैं और सोचने और जीने के सामान्य तरीके से बहाल हो सकते हैं; सबसे अच्छा तरीका यही होगा कि आप उसी प्रक्रिया का पालन करें, एक बार फिर अपने पति के लिए खुले रहें और अपने ठीक होने के प्रति सच्चे रहें, और गुप्त रहना बंद करें।
किसी अन्य सदस्य की पोस्ट को कॉपी करने के लिए, "मैं कहूंगा कि रहस्य हमें बीमार रखते हैं। जब तक आप जुआ खेलने की बात करते हैं, तब तक आप जीवन के माध्यम से अपना रास्ता जारी रखते हैं, आप एक ऐसे चक्र में रहेंगे जहां आप खुद से नफरत करते हैं ताकि आप जुआ, आप जुआ खेलते हैं और आप खुद से नफरत करते हैं, और यह चलता रहता है। मैं यह कभी नहीं कहने जा रहा हूं कि छोड़ना आसान है, लेकिन यह उतना कठिन नहीं था जितना मैंने सोचा था। मुझे केवल आग्रह के माध्यम से इसे सफेद करना था , और फिर मैं ठीक था। उन्हें दे दो … और मैं ट्रेडमिल पर वापस आ गया था।"
मुझे यह जानकारी अन्य लोगों से एक पति या पत्नी को बताने के बारे में भी मिली है। जीवनसाथी या महत्वपूर्ण अन्य को बताना एक कठिन काम है, ज्यादातर इसलिए क्योंकि आप भी फिर से अपने आप को स्वीकार कर रहे हैं कि आपने क्या किया है। लेकिन "अपने आप को और दूसरे इंसान को स्वीकार करना" उन कदमों में से एक है जिन्हें हमें ठीक करने के लिए उठाना चाहिए। ऐसा करने में, इसे अभी करना सबसे अच्छा हो सकता है, जितनी जल्दी हो सके – सुविधाजनक नहीं। इससे पहले कि वे अपने आप पता लगा लें – और यदि वे पहले से ज्ञात या अत्यधिक संदिग्ध नहीं हैं – इस प्रकार किसी भी अविश्वास का सामना करना पड़ सकता है। आप यहां आकर एक पुनर्प्राप्ति प्रक्रिया के साथ एक अच्छी अवस्था में हैं, यह दिखाते हुए कि आप रुकने की अपनी आवश्यकता का सामना करने के लिए ईमानदार हैं। यदि और जब आप ऐसा करते हैं, तो उनके (और स्वयं) के साथ पूरी तरह से ईमानदार होना महत्वपूर्ण है। उन्हें अपनी कुल लत और पैसे की कमी का कारण बताएं। बाद के लिए कुछ भी पीछे न रखें, एक बार में थोड़ा-थोड़ा बताने से हर बार अतिरिक्त अविश्वास पैदा होता है कि आप कहानी को थोड़ा और फैलाते हैं, फिर आपको सवालों की एक और बाढ़ और नए अविश्वास का सामना करना पड़ेगा। हर बार जब आप अपनी कहानी दोहराते हैं तो वे बस यही सोचेंगे, "आगे क्या, और क्या छुपा रहे हो"।यहां अपनी यात्राओं के साथ बने रहें और आग्रह के दौरान सहायता के लिए बाधाओं को रखें; यदि आग्रह प्रबल हो जाए, तो मजबूत अवरोधों को स्थापित करें और याद रखें कि यह आग्रह आपको चोट नहीं पहुंचाएगा, लेकिन, उनके आगे झुकना अधिक परेशानी का कारण बनेगा। एक बार में एक दिन के लिए किसी भी चीज के लिए जुआ न खेलें, और आप पाएंगे कि आपकी इच्छाएं कम तीव्र होती जा रही हैं।
भगवान की गति, मार्गदर्शन और मजबूत करने के लिए अपनी उच्च शक्ति का उपयोग करें।
लैरी "डे टू इज़ अदर डे बिहाइंड" – एक उच्च शक्ति की मदद से, माई 3 जी – गॉड, जीए, और जीटी, मैं जुआ मुक्त रहना जारी रखूंगा।Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door steevie
Goh waar moet ik beginnen … ik moet het allemaal samen opgeven …
en,
… MAAR wat als morgen komt en zoals in het verleden krijg ik de drang en doe niets van wat ik van plan was en ga de slots spelen …Goedemorgen Steevie, mijn naam is Larry (schermnaam paul315) en ik ben een dwangmatige gokker, mijn laatste weddenschap was 13 augustus 2009. Welkom bij GT, het is een plaats waar je hulp kunt vinden; je zult ook de vriendschap vinden van anderen die alle dingen hebben meegemaakt die jij hebt meegemaakt en die dezelfde pijn en schuld hebben gevoeld – je bent niet de enige met je problemen.
Waar begin je, je begon een maand of zes geleden door eerlijk tegen je man te komen en een herstelprogramma te starten door middel van therapie. Je kunt nu doorgaan met dat proces en hersteld worden in een normale manier van denken en leven; de beste manier zou zijn om hetzelfde proces te volgen, opnieuw open te staan voor je man en trouw te blijven aan je herstel, en niet langer geheimzinnig te doen.
Om een bericht van een ander lid te kopiëren: "Ik zal zeggen dat de geheimen ons ziek houden. Zolang je je een weg door het leven blijft geven als het gaat om gokken, blijf je in een cyclus waarin je jezelf haat, zodat je gok, je gokt en je haat jezelf, en zo gaat het maar door. Ik zal nooit zeggen dat stoppen gemakkelijk is, maar het was niet zo moeilijk als ik dacht. , en toen was ik in orde. Geef toe… en ik stond meteen weer op de loopband. "
Ik heb deze informatie over het vertellen van een echtgenoot ook van verschillende anderen gevonden. Het is moeilijk om het aan een echtgenoot of significante ander te vertellen, vooral omdat je ook weer aan jezelf toegeeft wat je hebt gedaan. Maar "aan onszelf en aan een ander mens toegeven" is een van de stappen die we moeten nemen om te herstellen. Daarbij is het misschien het beste om het nu te doen, zo snel mogelijk – niet handig. Doe het voordat ze er zelf achter komen – en dat zullen ze, als ze nog niet bekend zijn of zeer verdacht zijn -, wat bijdraagt aan het wantrouwen waarmee je te maken kunt krijgen. U bent in een goede fase met een herstelproces begonnen door hier te zijn en hen te laten zien dat u oprecht bent in het onder ogen zien van uw behoefte om te stoppen. Als en wanneer je dit doet, is het van vitaal belang om volledig eerlijk tegen hen (en jezelf) te zijn. Laat ze weten wat je totale verslaving is en wat de reden is voor het gebrek aan geld. Houd niets achter voor later, beetje bij beetje vertellen zorgt voor extra wantrouwen elke keer dat je wat meer van het verhaal naar buiten brengt, je zult dan een nieuw spervuur van vragen en nieuw wantrouwen het hoofd moeten bieden. Elke keer dat je je verhaal herziet, zullen ze gewoon denken, "wat nu, wat verberg je nog meer".Blijf op de hoogte van uw bezoeken hier en plaats barrières om te helpen tijdens de drang; als de drang sterker wordt, plaats dan sterkere barrières en onthoud dat de drang je geen pijn zal doen, maar eraan toegeven meer problemen zal veroorzaken. Gok niet voor één dag per keer, en je zult merken dat de drang minder intens wordt.
Gods snelheid, gebruik je Hogere Macht om je te leiden en te versterken.
Larry "Dag twee is nog een dag achter" – Met de hulp van een hogere macht, mijn 3G's – God, GA en GT, zal ik gokvrij blijven.Postado originalmente por steevie
Puxa, por onde eu começo … eu preciso desistir de tudo junto …
e,
… MAS e se amanhã vier e, como no passado, eu sinto vontade e não faço nada do que planejei e vou jogar nos caça-níqueis …Bom dia Steevie, meu nome é Larry (nome de usuário paul315) e sou um Jogador Compulsivo, minha última aposta foi em 13/08/2009. Bem-vindo ao GT, é um lugar onde você pode encontrar ajuda; você também encontrará a amizade de outras pessoas que passaram por todas as coisas que você passou e sentiram a mesma mágoa e culpa – você não está sozinho em seus problemas.
Por onde você começa, você começou há seis ou mais meses sendo sincero com seu marido e iniciando um programa de recuperação por meio de terapia. Agora você pode continuar esse processo e ser restaurado a uma maneira normal de pensar e viver; a melhor maneira seria seguir o mesmo processo, sendo mais uma vez aberta para o seu marido e sendo fiel à sua recuperação e parando de ser secreta.
Para copiar uma postagem de outro membro, "Eu direi que os segredos nos mantêm doentes. Enquanto você continuar estragando seu caminho pela vida quando se trata de jogos de azar, você permanecerá em um ciclo em que você se odeia, então você aposte, você aposta e se odeia, e assim por diante. Nunca vou dizer que desistir é fácil, mas não foi tão difícil quanto eu pensava. Eu só tive que lutar contra os impulsos , e então eu estava bem. Entregue-se a eles … e eu estava de volta à esteira. "
Também encontrei esta informação sobre como contar a um cônjuge de outras pessoas. Contar para o cônjuge ou outra pessoa importante é uma coisa difícil de fazer, principalmente porque você também está admitindo para si mesmo o que fez. Mas "admitir para nós mesmos e para outro ser humano" é um dos passos que devemos dar para nos recuperar. Ao fazer isso, pode ser melhor fazê-lo agora, o mais rápido possível – não é conveniente. Faça isso antes que eles descubram por conta própria – e eles descobrirão, se já não forem conhecidos ou altamente suspeitos -, aumentando assim qualquer desconfiança que você possa enfrentar. Você está em um bom estágio, tendo iniciado um processo de recuperação por estar aqui, mostrando a eles que você é sincero ao enfrentar sua necessidade de parar. Se e quando você fizer isso, é vital ser completamente honesto com eles (e com você mesmo). Informe-os sobre seu vício total e o motivo da falta de dinheiro. Não esconda nada para mais tarde, contar um pouco de cada vez causa desconfiança adicional cada vez que você conta um pouco mais da história, você terá que enfrentar outra enxurrada de perguntas e nova desconfiança. Cada vez que você revisar sua história, eles apenas pensarão, "e agora, o que mais você está escondendo".Acompanhe suas visitas aqui e coloque barreiras para ajudar durante as fissuras; se os impulsos ficarem mais fortes, coloque barreiras mais fortes e lembre-se de que o impulso não vai machucá-lo, mas ceder a eles causará mais problemas. Não jogue por nada por um dia de cada vez, e você descobrirá que os desejos ficarão menos intensos.
Na velocidade de Deus, use seu Poder Superior para guiá-lo e fortalecê-lo.
Larry "O segundo dia é outro dia atrás" – Com a ajuda de um poder superior, meus 3Gs – Deus, GA e GT, continuarei a jogar gratuitamente.Originally posted by kathryn
Ahhhhhhhh…..i have my computer back … I hope you are all well and happy, i also hope to be around a little more now….WOOHOO.
and,
Originally posted by meursaultsorry for venting my frustrations at you in the chatroom
Good morning Kathryn,First, it is good to see that you are planning on posting more; reading about the good life that being gambling free provides, albeit with less enjoyable events intermingled, is good for me and I am sure others. Keep the accounts of your accomplishments going.Nest, I would like to use your thread to post to Meursault; thanks in advance for the oppening. Good morning Meursault, my name is Larry and I am a Compulsive Gambler, my last bet was August 13, 2009. My last day of living a life that I have no reason or desire to go back to; but also the first day of my recovery where I accept the fact that if I was in that life once, that without help, I could return; the addiction still exist, I am only doing my best to keep it arrested.I enjoyed my visit with you in the chat room, your openness as to your thoughts on certain issues was both enlightening and provoking. Fresh thoughts and opinions are needed to help keep us aware of the different aspects of recovery and awaken us from any complacency. However, you might consider starting a topic of you own so that you can share in your life and all your thoughts, more frequent thoughts that will encourage us into continuing and making needed corrections to our recovery, not just those from an one off or limited visit; participate in all the options of GT.God’s speed. Stay strong. Keep aware.Larry"Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – With the help of a Higher Power, My 3G’s – God, GA, and GT, I will continue to be gambling free.
Originally posted by bettie
… Thats good and all but at $30 a visit …
Good morning Betty,
Not knocking a chiropractor of the service the provide, and not knowing your past efforts or insurance situation; I am still asking if you have tried a physical therapist prescribed by a MD. This way health insurance might cover some of the cost; if your doctor determined that your condition hindered or restricted in any way daily activities required to function, i.e., getting dressed, preparing meals, traveling to work, or preforming work. Like I said, I don’t know of your past history, but using a PT prescribed by a MD over a Chiro, unless they happen to be a MD/DC, was one thing that we (we as in my past union activities) recommended to our members to save on cost. A lot of insurance companies cover limited physical therapy even when they do not cover "adjustments".
God’s speed. Keep aware.Larry"Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – With the help of a Higher Power, My 3G’s – God, GA, and GT, I will continue to be gambling free.Originally posted by kathryn
Well, tonight the truth finally came out. …
Good morning Kathryn,
Sorry to hear about your confrontation with your husband, but as Meg point out, his thoughts are understandable. It is not understandable to me however, (but I am the CG, not the other one) how he would keep these fears bottled up within him. for you to be as open to us here your life must be as open to him, even with it being hidden in the past. And as Meg also said it is good that it is out in the open, now with honesty on both your parts it can offer new ways to address the future; ways to put down the past and walk on.
Today’s thought from Hazelden reminded my of your situation, and although it applies more to your husband’s harboring of the past than to your recoveyr, maybe you can see something in it that will also guide you in helping him advance with you in your recover. Your recovery has made you stronger; show this improvement and be strong in dealing with leftover resentments of others. In the reading below, and from your post, I see your husband as the second monk and your confrontation as a way to release and heal unsettled business.
According to a Japanese legend, two monks were walking down the road when they saw a finely dressed young woman standing before a large mud puddle. She explained that she had no way of crossing the water without ruining her clothes. Without saying a word, the first monk picked her up in his arms and lifted her safely across the obstacle.A few hours later the second monk said in an accusatory tone, "How could you have picked up that lady? Don’t you know that the rules strictly forbid us to touch a member of the opposite sex?" His friend smiled and then replied, "I put the woman down back at the puddle. Are you still carrying her?"
Like the second monk, many of us are still carrying old hurts, resentments, and lost opportunities that we picked up many mud puddles ago. As long as we remain stuck in the past, we cannot fully hear the inner voice, which speaks to us in the present. Thus, in order to tap our intuition, we need to release and heal our unfinished business.
By following the example of the first monk, we can put the past down and walk on. See your past experiences as teachings that have guided you to this present moment. An endless array of opportunities and possibilities lie before you. Immerse yourself in this good, and the old hurts will have no place left to make their home.
You are reading from the book: Listening to Your Inner Voice by Douglas Bloch
God’s speed. Stay strong.
Larry"Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – With the help of a Higher Power, My 3G’s – God, GA, and GT, I will continue to be gambling free.– 7/3/2010 3:38:07 PM: post edited by paul315.
Originally posted by bettie
… I went out and gambled …Good evening Bettie,
Reading your post caused be to think back when I went out and gambled. There were two phases in my gambling life that came to mind. One was when I could go out on a planned trip for entertainment at casinos or even a spur of the moment night out for relaxation or even relief from some stressful event or empty feeling, or just not to be alone. I would go to socialize with some friends or just to be with others for a while. It was a time where I enjoyed the excitement of this strange atmosphere. However that phase ended and turned into a Hellish nightmare; this Hell was my other phase where I was no longer going for the entertainment of social connection, or the relief in just getting away for a while. I had crossed the invisible line into irresponsible uncontrolled gambling. After crossing over this line turning me into a compulsive gambler, there was no going back; there is no going back, not for me, for you, or any other CG.
I now went to feed an addiction, not for entertainment; in fact when I tried to include the entertainment that a casino offered during these times I just found myself leaving it early and heading for the machines, not giving any thought to an event that in the past would be my only reason for being there. I now went secretively so as not to have my gambling interrupted by friends; I now separated myself from all conversation or acknowledgement of anyone near me — I became rude and made myself obnoxious just to be alone with my addiction. I was not drawn by the hypnotic lights, bells, and noises; it was no longer an attraction but rather an obsession. I had lost control of my life, I was now controlled by one of the most baffling, insidious, compulsive addictions that haunts mankind.
You say that you gambled this time because you felt empty; you were upset; you hated your life; and that you have no one special to share it with, that you are alone and feel worthless without purpose. these were the same things that I was doing after I lost my ability to enjoy life, the same excuses for me to continue to throw my life away. When you gambled this time did you feel fulfilled, were you no longer upset, did you find a special person to share your life with and give you a feeling of purpose? Or did you return home with the same feelings.
When I finely had enough and accepted that I could not gamble or even try to experiment on occasion with small bets, when I understood that these "lapses" or "slips" (my return to gambling) had and would always end with disastrous and devastating results reigniting old desires and providing for the inevitably return to my obsession, I stopped gambling for everything and I began to find and enjoy a better life and no longer doubted my usefulness or purpose. You can do the same, you are not useless or even trying to fulfil a death wish. You may go to bed and wake up with what you describe as a death wish (a feeling the is actually a characteristic of a CG; a desire to loose to punish oneself), but you go on; you live, maybe not the better life that being gambling free offers yet, but you do strive forward and think about a future, the welfare and safety of others, and about the lives of your fellow gamblers (perhaps a purpose).
When you have had enough, when you truly accept the fact and truth that running away from your problems or fears by gambling will not help or give relief, you too can find and enjoy what you are searching for; you can be happy, with or with out richness, with or without enough to get by on. But it will only be found by continuously not gambling for anything while diligently working on recovery, a process that will cause change, including a change in the desire to punish.
God’ speed. Stay strong. Be honest, openminded, and willing.Larry"Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – With the help of a Higher Power, My 3G’s – God, GA, and GT, I will continue to be gambling free.Originally posted by bettie
… My assistant manager mentioned how hard next week will be for her …Good morning Bettie,
When you co-worker mentions how hard it is for her when you are off, and not how hard it is for both of you working without backup, she is really recognizing how you can overcome and that she has trouble. She might even be asking for help as to how you do it.
As long as you continue with your good work and showing your abilities, your probation will end, you will be enjoying your own Independence Day.
The same holds true with your recovery. Stay strong.
God’s speed.Larry"Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – With the help of a Higher Power, My 3G’s – God, GA, and GT, I will continue to be gambling free.Originally posted by bettie
Good Morning,
Interesting chat this morning. Wish I stayed in bed. …
… My story is here, feel free to think what ever u want. …
Originally posted by veraHi Bettie! Sometimes we can be rubbed up the wrong way in chat. …
Good afternoon Betty,
Without knowing the history of this morning’s chat I still feel like commenting on what I can gather from reading between the lines in your post and the reply of Vera.
First, I would like to thank your for your story and the openness and honestly that you show in sharing it. I think that you have captured the intent and spirit of GT; their effort in offering a service to us who are adversely affected by gambling. A service that provides an outlet where we can talk about the lives we led, the life we are leading now, the one we want for the future, and how we plan to get there. You are using this service to the fullest; and even more so by providing help and inspiration for others. That is what I think.
The two remarks quoted above remind me of a couple of my post; one where I basically apologized in advance for being open and even controversial in my post and in telling my story. I have also mentioned from time to time that my replies and remarks in the Groups are addressed to me as well as the recipient. My main purpose here is to help me stay gambling free and to improve my life for the better; I do not intend to hurt or disagree with anyone in my efforts, but I can not control other’s perception or reactions, nor can I just not participate because of disagreements — I need this interchange to broaden my outlook and strengthen my resolve.
I also found myself where I felt I was wrong in some remarks, for this I followed the principles of my recovery, and the guidance from my heart, and took fast action to make the amends that I felt were required. But, like you telling us to think what we want, I can not regulate and fashion my actions around all others and how they may perceive me; I can only react to my mistakes in making any amends.
My recovery and my actions are build around the principles and the Steps Program of GA; even the advice I give and the suggestions I offer to others are based mainly on these principles. However, although I recommend GA, I do try to make it clear that there are other means and programs to follow, that I am only suggesting ways that GA and other providers prescribe, ways that are proven to work in my life and in others who follow their chosen recovery paths. I guess I am trying to say your thoughts and affiliations with or without GA makes no difference. It is your recovery that counts.
Again, I am only reading between lines, but my reply to what is only my limited findings, is also addressed to me and is intended to help me in my recovery in addition to any good you or others might get from it.
God’s speed. Stay Strong. Keep aware. Be true to yourself. Keep participating in the Forums and in the Chats.
Larry"Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – With the help of a Higher Power, My 3G’s – God, GA, and GT, I will continue to be gambling free.– 6/24/2010 7:08:50 PM: post edited by paul315.
Originally posted by bettie
… Where to start. I blew it. … No excuses. …
I really don’t like me at all.Good morning Betty,
Where to start? I will start with it is good that you immediately started to straighten things out after you gambled again; it is good that you are continuing your recovery program – "Recovery is progression not perfection." For now the only change is your clean date, not your clean time. You have the enjoyments from this period, plus the knowledge that you can live gambling free and ways that can help; two months is not the life time that we strive for, but, it should let you know that it can be done. You did not have this knowledge before you started, then you woke up wishing you were dead; now you only don’t like yourself — Self can be changed.
In your prior post you told this story:
"Almost forgot, my ex gambling buddy had a friend who was shot and murdered over a poker game. It was a group of folks who had played together for years. I guess she was up about $800 and wouldn’t rejoin the game to give the others a chance to "get even". She walked to the refrigerator to get a glass of ice and the other woman walked up behind her and shot her in the head. How sad!"
This can be seen as you being 2 Months ahead in your recovery and your addiction not liking it, wanting another chance; you turned your back and the addiction snuck up and shot you down. The lady in your story had no chance to recover, but you do; this can make for a different ending, the choice is yours. Or as GA states it,"CAN A COMPULSIVE GAMBLER EVER GAMBLE NORMALLY AGAIN? – No. The first bet to a problem gambler is like the first drink to an alcoholic. Sooner or later he or she falls back into the same old destructive pattern. Once a person has crossed the invisible line into irresponsible uncontrolled gambling he or she never seems to regain control. After abstaining a few months some of our members have tried some small bet experimentation, always with disastrous results. The old obsession inevitably returned. Our Gamblers Anonymous experience seems to point to these alternatives: to gamble, risking progressive deterioration or not to gamble, and develop a better way of life".
Where to stop? A couple more thoughts and I will close.
You have the knowledge to fight off urges, barriers in place, and the desire to stop; yet you gambled without any excuses or apparently any driving urge – you gambled for the Hell of it. This sole reason was what brought me the closest to gambling again then any urge or temptation; I just did not see any reason not to. However, before turning my back on my sobriety, I took the time to think things out. I found that although I could see any reasons not to gamble at the time in my dreamworld or suspended mind, I had even less reasons to; and that the results of the past would only be repeated.
To use the words from a post by a Fellow Gambler, Stephen, "What has helped me tremendously in recovery is not allowing the addiction to let me blindly look at any positive, or perceived positive aspects of gambling…but to clearly look at the negative aspects of gambling. It’s not even debatable…the negative aspects of gambling far outweigh any possible positive aspects by a very wide margin".
You close with, "I really don’t like me at all"; if you gambled without any excuses, perhaps you also turned your back on the you that you can like; use this recovery time to work on changes in your life that will let you like the real you. Recovery is not just being gambling free, it is making change so that we can live.
God’s speed. Keep aware. Stay strong.
Larry"Day Two Is Another Day Behind" – With the help of a Higher Power, My 3G’s – God, GA, and GT, I will continue to be gambling free.– 6/16/2010 5:25:04 PM: post edited by paul315.