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Hey MurrS7, Nogmaals, ik waardeer het dat je zo transparant bent over je situatie. Ik ben ook teruggevallen (zoals ik eerder in deze thread heb gedeeld) en heb in slechts enkele dagen een enorme ramp veroorzaakt. Ik heb momenteel te maken met dat, gezondheidscomplicaties en huisvestingscomplicaties. Dat gezegd hebbende, wil ik jou en ik uitdagen om een heel jaar clean te blijven. Ik wil jou (en mezelf) uitdagen om een jaar clean te blijven, ons te concentreren op onze gezondheid en geld te verwerven door te werken en niet door te gokken. Ik heb een sterk gevoel en vertrouwen dat als we allebei in staat zijn om een jaar clean te blijven en ons op het bovenstaande te concentreren, veel van onze huidige problemen zullen verdwijnen. Blijf gefocust en onthoud dat elke dag dat we niet gokken een winnende dag is. We zullen ons concentreren op onze gezondheid, onze doelen en op een eerlijke manier geld verdienen zonder het risico te lopen het te verliezen. Wees goed.

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Hey MurrS7,

Once again I appreciate you for being so transparent with your situation. I have also relapsed (as I shared earlier in this thread) and caused a huge disaster in just a matter of days. I am currently dealing with that, health complications, and housing complications.

With that being said, I would like to challenge you and I to stay clean for a full year. I want to challenge you (and myself) to stay clean for a year, focus on our health, and acquire funds through work and not gambling. I have a strong feeling and confidence that if we both are able to stay clean for a year and focus on the above, many of our current problems will go away.

Please stay focused and remember that each day we do not gamble is a winning day. We shall focus on our health, our goals, and earning money the honest way without risking losing it. Be well.

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Ей, MurrS7, Първо, искам да кажа, че това е честно казано едно от най -добрите статии в списанието, които съм чел за зависимостта от хазарта. Вие сте толкова прозрачни и описателни с разказването си. За някой като мен, който беше чист в продължение на няколко месеца (приблизително около година) и рецидивира преди около 2 до 3 седмици през миналата седмица и оттогава се бори с желанията, точно това трябваше да прочета. През целия си живот играя хазарт с изблици на чисто време и се опитвам с всички сили да премахна напълно лошата зависимост. Хората, които не са били в хватките на тази зависимост, не биха разбрали или биха могли да съпреживяват честното списание, което сте споделили тук. Трябва най-накрая да си разбера, че тези пари са изчезнали и трябва да си ги докарам, че връщането им чрез хазарт е несъществуваща концепция и трябва да разбирам това всеки ден до края на живота си без значение колко месеци или години съм бил чист, защото това е пристрастяване, към което човек може да се върне всеки момент, ако не внимава. Искам да ви благодаря за вашата прозрачност и за това, че сте толкова отворени за вашата битка с толкова големи подробности. Аз буквално се боря с тази зависимост през целия си живот, така че напълно разбирам всяко едно нещо, което сте написали, и мисловните процеси, които идват с преследването, издигането, спускането, загубата на всичко, гаденето, желанието да се откаже от живота и т.н. Като се има предвид това, аз съм приблизително на същата възраст като вас и също се занимавам с огромен дълг, лош кредит и не много, за да покажа (финансово или парично) за всичко, за което съм работил до този момент, но ще го направя кажете, че животът не е свършил за никой от нас. И двамата можем да победим тази зависимост и да имаме по -светло бъдеще. Разберете, че има хора, които са много по -възрастни от нас, които никога не са се отваряли на сайт за хазартни форуми, които никога не са били на среща на GA, които никога не са признавали, че имат проблем, и чакат до последните си дни, за да се представят като признаят, че имат проблем (тези хора често ще ви казват, че биха искали да се справят с пристрастяването си към хазарта по -рано в живота). Ти и аз започнахме по -рано. Днес можем да се откажем завинаги. Както казва един от старейшините, ние не губим чистите си дни дори когато рецидивираме, но по -важното от това е, че вземаме нещата един по един и се борим да не залагаме за този ден и в крайна сметка дните ще се добавят и желанието ни да залагаме бавно ще намалее, когато се съсредоточим върху други неща в живота, като нашето здраве, кариера, взаимоотношения, благополучие и т.н. Искам да повторя още веднъж, че хората, които не са преживели да са в хватките на тази зависимост, ще не разбират, затова е важно за нас да не се фокусираме върху негативните неща, които те трябва да кажат, тъй като това може да дойде от гледна точка на преценка, а не на съпричастност. Като се има предвид това, има няколко души (и трябва да има повече), които са преживели и победили тази зависимост, които могат да ни предложат някои страхотни съвети и чудесен принос, които да ни помогнат също да победим тази зависимост. Вболея за вас MurrS7, както и за себе си. Нека Бог да ни благослови и да ни освободи от тази наистина болестно болна зависимост.

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Hey MurrS7, Ten eerste wil ik zeggen dat dit eerlijk gezegd een van de beste dagboekstukken is die ik ooit over gokverslaving heb gelezen. Je bent zo transparant en beschrijvend met je verhalen. Voor iemand zoals ik die enkele maanden clean was (ongeveer een jaar) en ongeveer 2 tot 3 weken geleden terugviel in vorige week en sindsdien aandrang heeft gevochten, is dit precies wat ik moest lezen. Ik gok mijn hele leven al met spurten van schone tijd en ik doe mijn best om de slechte verslaving volledig te stoppen. Mensen die deze verslaving niet in de greep hebben gehad, zouden het eerlijke dagboek dat u hier hebt gedeeld niet begrijpen of zich kunnen inleven. Ik moet het eindelijk door mijn hoofd krijgen dat dat geld weg is en ik moet het tot mijn hoofd krijgen dat het terugkrijgen door gokken een niet-bestaand concept is, en ik moet dit elke dag begrijpen voor de rest van mijn leven hoeveel maanden of jaren ik ook clean ben, want dit is een verslaving waar je elk moment in terug kan vallen als je niet oppast. Ik wil je bedanken voor je transparantie en dat je zo open bent over je strijd tot in detail. Ik heb letterlijk mijn hele leven tegen deze verslaving gevochten, dus ik begrijp alles wat je hebt geschreven en de denkprocessen die komen kijken bij jagen, opstaan, neerslachtig zijn, alles verliezen, je ziek voelen, het leven willen opgeven, enz. Dat gezegd hebbende, ik ben ongeveer even oud als jij en heb ook te maken met enorme schulden, slechte kredieten en niet veel om (financieel of monetair) te laten zien voor alles waar ik tot nu toe voor heb gewerkt, maar ik zal zeggen dat het leven voor geen van ons beiden voorbij is. We kunnen allebei deze verslaving verslaan en een betere toekomst hebben. Begrijp dat er mensen zijn die veel ouder zijn dan wij die zich nog nooit op een gokforumsite hebben geopend, die nog nooit naar een algemene vergadering zijn geweest, die nooit hebben toegegeven dat ze een probleem hebben, en die wachten tot hun laatste dagen om zich te onderwerpen aan dit toegeven dat ze een probleem hebben (deze mensen zullen je vaak vertellen dat ze zouden willen dat ze hun gokverslaving veel eerder in hun leven zouden aanpakken). Jij en ik zijn eerder begonnen. We kunnen vandaag voorgoed stoppen. Zoals een van de oudsten zegt, we verliezen onze schone dagen niet, zelfs niet als we terugvallen, maar wat nog belangrijker is, we nemen de dingen dag voor dag en vechten om niet te gokken voor die dag en uiteindelijk zullen de dagen optellen en ons verlangen om te gokken zal langzaam afnemen als we ons concentreren op andere dingen in het leven, zoals onze gezondheid, carrières, relaties, welzijn, enz. Ik wil nogmaals herhalen dat mensen die niet hebben ervaren dat ze in de greep van deze verslaving niet begrijpen, dus het is belangrijk voor ons om ons niet te concentreren op de negatieve dingen die ze te zeggen hebben, omdat het vanuit een veroordelend perspectief kan komen in plaats van een empathisch perspectief. Dat gezegd hebbende, er zijn verschillende mensen (en er moeten er meer zijn) die deze verslaving hebben meegemaakt en overwonnen en die ons goed advies en geweldige input kunnen geven om ons te helpen ook van deze verslaving af te komen. Ik ben aan het rooten voor jou MurrS7 zoals ik aan het rooten ben voor mezelf. Moge God ons zegenen en ons bevrijden van deze zeer werkelijk zieke, zieke verslaving.

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Hey MurrS7,

First, I want to say this is honestly one of the best journal pieces I have ever read on gambling addiction.

You are so transparent and descriptive with your storytelling.

For someone like me who was clean for several months (roughly around a year) and relapsed about 2 to 3 weeks ago into last week and has been battling urges ever since, this is exactly what I needed to read.

I’ve been gambling throughout my entire life with spurts of clean time and I am trying my best to kick the bad addiction completely. People who have not been in the grips of this addiction would not understand or be able to empathize with the honest journaling you have shared here.

I need to finally get it through my head that that money is gone and need to get it through to my head that getting it back through gambling is a non-existent concept, and I need to understand this every day for the rest of my life no matter how many months or years I have been clean, because this is an addiction that one can relapse in at any moment if they are not careful.

I want to thank you for your transparency and being so open about your battle in such great detail. I have literally been battling this addiction throughout my entire life so I completely understand every single thing you wrote and the thought processes that come with chasing, being up, being down, losing it all, feeling sick, wanting to give up on life, etc.

With that being said, I am roughly around the same age as you and am also dealing with massive debt, bad credit, and not much to show (financially or monetarily) for everything I have worked for up to this point, but I will say that life is not over for either of us. We can both beat this addiction and have a brighter future. Understand that there are people who are much older than us who have never opened up on a gambling forum site, who have never been to a GA Meeting, who have never admitted they have a problem, and they wait until their last days to submit to this admitting they have a problem (these people will often tell you they wish they addressed their gambling addiction way earlier in life). You and I have started earlier. We can quit for good today. As one of the elders says, we don’t lose our clean days even when we relapse, but more importantly than that, we take things one day at a time and fight to not gamble for that day and eventually the days will add up and our desire to gamble will slowly decrease as we focus on other things in life such as our health, careers, relationships, well-being, etc.

I want to repeat once again that people who have not experienced being in the grips of this addiction will not understand, so it is important for us to not focus on the negative things they have to say, as it may come from a judgmental perspective rather than an empathetic one. With that being said, there are several people (and there needs to be more) who have experienced and beat this addiction who can offer us some great advice and some great input to help us also beat this addiction.

I am rooting for you MurrS7 as I am rooting for myself. May God bless us and free us from this very truly sick sick addiction.

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