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Monica1Participant
Personally I don’t see you as an unbearable male member. What made you say that? Tenacious maybe. That’s a positive. Knowing what you want and and how to get there without causing harm all positive stuff. Fine qualities. So What’s the down side of that?
Monica1ParticipantForget the stocks thing as we have discussed that. Wrong for me but can see others can have an element of control over it, according to the emotional shifts of the market and it does Move on emotions when we think about it, fear, dread, optimistic, certainty etc.
I am in the same line of business as you, different industry but we are both contractors. I was fully employed until about 14 months ago so now I am on the breadline and be,ow the poverty line. . Then I was a very high earner. It actually fed my gambling. If I had once ounce of sensible ness she. I worked away from home for 17mo this and not gambling but coming home and gambling, all my debts would be paid off. I am someone who even my family sees as capable of very high earning potential, if I got a six month job tomorrow at my usual rate, I would it need to go bankrupt. In 2 to 3 years all my debt would be paid off. However, I am 60 on. I day and whether I like it or not most of the employers market, it all, view me as a less attractive employment option. But what I am saying Jonny, is that I can see how you are very capable of paying off quickly according to the daily rate you earn and for me what particular tax method is used. The tax laws have chan3d here and high daily rates have been clamled down on tax wise and some jobs pay on,y half of what they used to now. So what I am saying is that Laura is one of the wisest people I have ever met! (What she says in her thread)Monica1ParticipantLaura is echoing what I wanted to also,say too. I also had no doubt that geordies,original thread to you was attaching in nature. I did not understand why. But also your response was pretty dreadful, somewhat arrogant ego defence driven and pretty indefensible. So the girls here think you were both wrong…. but geordie, why did you feel,the need to attack jonny in the way that you did and call him a liar? I don’t think he is a liar at all.
Monica1ParticipantSo,will have a read. What I can say is that I hooted with laughter when I read your ab c question. So funny!
Monica1ParticipantVery reflective and I liked reading it. And you are right, we are all different. .Personally, I like that you are getting your control over finances. For some CGs, someone may need to hold their finances for a lifetime. For some they won’t and control will gradually return. We are all individuals and rule books whether it is rigidly following GA principles or something else are meant sometimes to be broken. Even tried and tested rules will s etimes be completely wrong for an individual. That is what makes us so great and unique. There will never be another person like you or like me. How amazing is that?
I really get your stance on control of money as initially when I get any money for work I will also hand over control. I have to realise and own that I have not been good with money in my lifetime, initially because of a lack ofit and then having a lot but never spending it on some of the things that matter, ie home. I travelled a lot, gave away a lot to family, bought clothes or studied with it. I was pleased to hear that you had bought clothes and posted about it. Because as part of my recovery plan devised with idi, self esteem is one of the headers and feeling good about ourselves in some natty threads is very positive.
Sometimes I think we can be addicted to debt. I personally was bombarded some time ago by bitcoins, stocks and buying software to play with stocks. These guys never give up. . I looked at this and for me it was one hundred per cent gambling, so I chose not to have that in my life. I also see that the opposite viewpoint can also be true. I saw a programme about a young Afro Caribbean guy from humble origins who had made millions and just sits at his pc for one hour a day buying and selling stocks. I was in awe of what he had achieved. God, that would bea great life. But for me that is too like gambling. I would quickly lose control, but that is me. That is the thing about viewpoints. Two opposing viewpoints can both be right for that person holding the view. It is about respecting someone’s view but also being mindful that as Laura says, holding money may sometimes leave us a tad vulnerable if life should throw us an emotional curveball. One of the first things I learned in GA and here is that no emotional upset or pleasure, no matter what, is an excuse to go and gamble. When in action for me, it was always an excuse, the bigger the emotional upset the bigger the splurge. I used this as an excuse all the time.
Anyhoo great post jonny and hope to see you post soon. As a professional, I can see that you do self reflect, which is the part of any conscious persons emotional toolkit, and have good insight.Monica1ParticipantThanks for posting. I posted the plan and then saw your post which I appreciate. And yes you are right re the depression. It is one of the reasons the doctor won’t give me anti depressants. It is all circumstantial. I did tell her about the film though. For some reason it is important for me to tell selected people about it. My doc says she sees a lot of poverty related mental and physical health issues. I wonder why when all of my learning around poverty has been to to eradicate it over two decades that I created it again In such a big way. I will get to the bottom of this and ensure it never happens again
Monica1ParticipantExercise and health
I have arranged for lung function to be done by docs before I can assess where I can go with exercise. I have had one walk in the park. I have signalled my desire to my Gp to cease all addictions, the primary one being the smokes.
Finances
Quite a lot here and I don’t mind being open about it, serves as a record
I have rung companies house who inform me that the revenue after two and a half years are still refusing to liquidate my company.
I have stopped a magistrates order from entering my home with the electricity board
I have emailed my financial inclusion officer from housing to notify her that 1.it is not possible to survive on the benefit I have. Internet goes soon so I will ring my son and ask him if he can pay this. The bedroom tax of 80 a month makes all the difference here. She is going to try and get me a grant to declare bankruptcy and also ask the bailiffs to back off. This would be a huge relief. I think part of my depressed mood this week has been around realising I cannotsurvive on benefits and the rather confronting situation I had with the bailiffs last Friday.
I have stopped court action from the tv licensing people but they want six pounds a week for the pleasure.
Self esteem
This has suffered. I was shocked with how I looked on the tv, ie slightly haunted with the shadows under the eyes. An early lesson for me was the effect of poverty on mental and physical health. I learned this as a child and then again all the way up to late thirties when very slowly over two decades steadily began to have a lot more money and by mid fifties had a lot of money.
Work
A couple of things s have come in but too far away and can’t afford the expense. I am Keeping my work options open. If something good comes up I will take it .
Social and relationships
I have arranged to see my daughter for dinner on my birthday where we will look at options going forward. Of everyone, my daughter gets it all. All the women in our family really get it and have a Lot,of emotional intelligence.
I am a bit,upset, amazing how these thins can bother you, and happen to me at least once a year. My sister has sent me a recorded delivery for my birthday which has not arrived and the post office have it as signed for. As peter griffin in family guy says this sort of thing really grinds my gears. It is being investigated though but will take three days.
So that is the plan,which is simple. Sometimes it seems like one step forward and one back but taking it one day at a time. The agitation of earlier has passed. I think I was very glad to speak to you own doctor who really is a wonderful person and a great role model. As any e who knows me, my role model portfolio in life has been a big like finding an oasis in a desert so if I was ever asked who do I look up to, it would be her.Monica1ParticipantWell, all the plans of today went somewhat awry. After Being awake all night until midday slept till half past five. I find an egg sandwich by my bed which Pete must have put there. Goes with the egg sarnis of yesterday and the day before that. I am feeling grateful for it.
I am feeling deeply reflective. I can see that the world likes to pigeonhole and label,people you are this, you are that. I am feeling that, particularlyeith the depression label,but I am also feeling my spirit rise and refuse to have a label or a situation that has a prolonged stuckness about it, Reall, we are so much more than those things. Who are we?
Ultimately we are a soul going to God. That is the destiny of all souls. We are born with certain spiritual blueprints and soul lessons ie what we need to learn in this life. For me it is quite simple. Fit and foremost I need to,earn to love myself and the. To love others. My choices in life hsve reflecte on occasion my lack of love for myself. At other times I have sorted in life and done very well. One of the best days in my life was in front of my father when I won every single race on sports day, about five 1sts. I had been second the year before beaten by a rival. The difference was that final year was that I had trained myself alone in the woods every night and so really trained myself to win. That tells me a lot about myself that that level of persistence and perhaps competition is a part of who I am. As I have gotten older I have los the competitive element but still have the persistence. I think what I am saying is that I refuse to be pigeonholed. I find this enforced period of health issues and depression difficult, very difficult. I am impatient and want things to move on, and I realise they will intheirown time. I have always liked to go out into the world but I have deliberately isolated myself for a long time now. Part of this is related to self esteem I think and the current lack of funds. I am determined to not let all this define me.
My sponsor texted and said he understood why i needed a break. I said I would see hiM in around a weeks time. I need this headspace to just work out in me what is what. Yesterday I was this woman who is just falling apart and I suppose I will have other days where I feel the same. Today I am thinking like idi, keep it simple. I have missed posting on idis thread and need to do that. We did write down a set of headers for a hope and recovery plan so I will write down what I have done across each in the next thread.Monica1ParticipantWell, been awake all night. Mind whirring. Watched films on the poor and disabled in this country. There is grass roots anger including me, and as soon as I get on my feet, I am joining the Labour Party and becoming active in the fight to rid ourselves of this parasitic Government.
I rang my Gp and despite being told that the surgery was really busy, was surprised to get a call back from my own doctor who is a kind and caring person, the type that makes you feel better just be speaking to them. I was so grateful for this. She has written a further medical certificate for 6 weeks as still not had the results of the colonoscopy and I need to go and have lung function done prior to giving up the last addiction. Got w text from the lady From GA who,said, forget GA, just to call her for a chat which I will do later. What ismagitting me so much is the thought that I might get stuck like this. My housing association were going on about claiming for PIP and I thought whoa neddy, this is not long term.i said to my doc that my aim was to get back to work ASAP but I acknowledged that right Now with all the financial pressures, bailiffs, dealing with creditors i cannot do this right now.Monica1ParticipantWhat a lovely post. Thank you. Of course, you will be missed but I respect your decision. If things don’t support us,or make us feel positive, then we need to take a break. Unfortunately, I feel this about GA for now. I have to take off the emotional stress and upset the steps have caused me and put my sensible head on just for a while. I cannot afford to indulge in the pain that comes up and is triggered. So,it is practical steps for me for a short whole, to stop everything from just shutting down and then I will return. It isn’t the addiction speaking but self preservation. You have done very well despite it all and deserve a fulfilled and happy life. Hope to talk to you again real soon.
Monica1ParticipantJonny, my post was not a criticism. Sometimes we can be challenged in our views on things and the way we express them. and that is a good thing although we may not see it at the time. Sometimes we need to reflect on things, what we say and why we say it. . Noone is nasty in here, quite the opposite and we are all equals. Those that post on here a lot really need the support as certainly for me, I am up the creek without a paddle. You are well I to your recovery and not having a daily battle for Healthfood and regaining all that was lost. You are liked and respected on this site. The forum has been a strong support and often the only one for me. I do t k ow what I would do without it.
Monica1ParticipantYou are an amazing person with huge insight. Most of the lady CGs have huge insight, sensitivity and strength.
Monica1ParticipantMine is on 27th and Ben, my eldest sons was on 17th. Have a good kip geordie. Not sure if I’ll make the 12 o clock one either.
Monica1ParticipantMy daughter just rang and said that her husband has now watched the film and was also shocked. My daughter knew it was bad but her husband didn’t appreciate how bad it was. He has always associated me with being well off as I was earning heaps of money when they stayed with me for a year when they had just had a baby and were homeless. They have a second smaller front room and have said that they would convert it and I could rent it from them. My daughter knows that I will probably perish if I stay in this environment for much longer. I am going to think about how this could work. With my eldest son wanting my flat here because of his housing need I am not going to be able to please everyone here.
Monica1ParticipantMy daughter just rang and said that her husband has now watched the film and was also shocked. My daughter knew it was bad but her husband didn’t appreciate how bad it was. He has always associated me with being well off as I was earning heaps of money when they stayed with me for a year when they had just had a baby and were homeless. They have a second smaller front room and have said that they would convert it and I could rent it from them. My daughter knows that I will probably perish if I stay in this environment for much longer. I am going to think about how this could work. With my eldest son wanting my flat here because of his housing need I am not going to be able to please everyone here.
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