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I’m sorry that this happened to you again but you need to get your head out of your ass. You dont need to lose everything to realize you have a problem and that you need to stop. There are no people that can play those odds and still live a productive life. You will win and you will lose. That’s the game. You are still focusing on the winning so much that the system in your head seems viable. I know that if I put enough money into a slot machine that I will hit a bonus eventually and probably win some of it back, maybe more, but if I keep playing the slot machine will take it all back. Same with cards. The odds will be with you and then against you at some point. The problem with compulsive behavior is that you cant stop when it’s in your favor. You will play until you can no longer play. It will all be gone. The sooner you accept this the sooner you can move on. I understand thoroughly the feelings that you are dealing with and in your head you keep thinking that “but I do win so if I can just learn to win and quit I can make this work”. You cant learn to just walk away if you are a compulsive gambler and you have to make the decision now if you are going to keep going until you are broke and in a desperate situation or are you going to walk away, pick up the pieces and move on. That’s what I did. I didnt have to lose everything to realize that my situation was getting critical and I am at the point where I have injured my finances but they are not broken. Dont keep punching yourself in the face until you are unrecognizable. You are bloody and beaten, but you will heal. Put all of that energy spent trying to beat the systems to a better use. You cant and wont win in the long run. Hope you are better today.
LosingitslowlyParticipantI had to make a payment plan with a few of my debtors this week to get caught up and it is incredibly sobering how far behind I have managed to get on some of my bills. I will work on this tirelessly because that is how I do things, and the lack of money to gamble will help in my recovery. It’s like losing weight when there is not a lot to eat. I will make some choices and others will be made for me but that doesnt devalue my progress or recovery. I read what @dark energy wrote about paying off debt then relapsing and so I will make sure to be aware that this could retrigger me. I want to get to a point where gambling ( and it’s horrible after effects) do not take up all of my mind. I want to start living, planning, doing things that other people consider normal. Start an exercise routine to get into better shape. Save money for new furniture. Go to the mall and buy a new pair of Jeans. Anything but gamble or skrimp to make ends meet and pay my obligations because I did gamble. I want to stop thinking about how to live like it looks like I have no money issues. I want to stop being worried about paying my daughters tuition. It will all stop if I do. I just have to stop being a dork and throwing money at a company in Malta. It’s easier than we think and the hardest thing that we have ever had to do. Or is it really? As with @kin, we just have to deny ourselves the pleasure that we crave, deal with a little mental discomfort at the thought of not being able to do as we crave, put on our big boy pants and stop digging ourselves into the quick sand. That is what gambling is to us. Every move we make digs us in deeper until it will eventually swallow us up. The only smart move is to avoid the sand altogether and that is what I plan to do right now. How I feel tomorrow may not be in line, but I hope that reading your posts will put me back on the straight and narrow of I falter. I wish you all strength today.
LosingitslowlyParticipantWell, you are living up to your name. That was brutally honest. I’m not hearing that you are regretting going back into the casino, only that you are regretting losing control. It sounds like you plan on going back if you get more money. You need to face the fact that it doesnt matter if your plan works every time, some of the time or never. You are an addict and you will lose it all. I know how it feels to win. It’s not like I lost all of the time. I Have won some big jackpots and that is what kept me in the hole. The more you win the longer you play until it is all gone. It’s simple. You are addicted to the play, and it will never be enough. I used to play online for 8 to 12 hours straight, get a headache and still be unable to stop until it was all gone. The best advice is to not start. Any money you get is money you dont lose. Stop thinking about the money as a way to win more. It wont be the outcome that your gambling mind sets out. You will lose it all and maybe more. I’m not sure if anything that I can say will seep in when the fog has your brain hostage, but try to shake it out and start over. Perhaps you should go to a GA meeting. Look around the room and see how many rich, well adjusted gambling addicts walk into the room for help. If you are an addict it will be only to your detriment to continue.
LosingitslowlyParticipantI dont know what will work for you that you havent already tried so maybe it is worth talking to the friend that lives close to you and see what help they think they can offer. Telling your family may be a deterrent at first, but if they are not in your life on a daily basis it will be hard to use them as a block. I thought that if I told my sister the shame would be enough to turn me straight but it didnt work. She doesnt know what I do and we are all good at hiding things from others, so it’s easy to hide gambling if we continue. I decided to embrace all of my debt with open eyes and now paying it down is enough to keep me on the straight and narrow. For now. I’m not sure how I will feel when it is paid but it is something that I will be keeping an eye on. I find that after the first 33 days gamble free I relapsed but not gambling after that now is easier. It’s like the pattern has been broken and the fog has been lifted. If you can get through 30 days again then perhaps you start something new to distract your brain until the fog lifts. There is no answer that is easy other than starting back at day one and trying harder the next time. Perhaps you focus on debt, keep no money to gamble AT ALL, and if it takes you 4 years then you are gamble free for 4 years! Or if you save money, put it into an investment that you cannot liquidate easily to gamble when the urge hits you. I, for one, keep no money handy at all in the bank since I know I draw from my bank account to gamble. I pay all my Bill’s weekly as soon as the money from work hits the account. I take out cash for groceries so I cant gamble that. I am focusing on living on as little as possible so that my energy is redirected. It is what works for me. A little suffering can go a long way to keep you focused on the long path ahead. Dont give up because you have the answer in your head, you just have to find it.
LosingitslowlyParticipantIts Monday morning and the start of a new week and month for me ( and you of course)and I am struggling to make all of the financial payments required at the first of the month. I have a deep sadness at the lack of funds on hand for my daughters birthday coming up and for mothers day and 3 more birthdays this month. The expenses seem endless and then I remember my relapse. I lost a bunch if money that I had put aside and I then feel more determined to make it through this month somehow. I know that I have less funds because I am paying off debt. I know that I am catching up on outstanding amounts and that I will have a better month this month and next if I stay away from the slots. I know that I dont have one penny to put into them at this point and I feel a bit of relief. I have family that can help.if times get too rough but I wont ask them. I must ride out the hard times because this is what will keep me realizing what my actions have done to my situation. It is not without hardship and I almost enjoy it at times because it takes my focus away from gambling and keeps it on recovery. I am going to be gamble free today because I have no choice and because I choose to be. It can be noth at the same time and knowing that is calming. My regard s to everyone who has to make it through the end of the month financial crunch and if it causes discomfort, use this to propel you into a month of recovery. It will get better in time. You didnt get this way in one month and it will take more than one month to get yourself out. ( me talking to myself) . Happy Monday everyone and may May be a month of triumph.
LosingitslowlyParticipantHey we win, sorry to have been gone for so long but its spring here, and lots of new things to do. I am present for the first time in a long time. I wake each day feeling like I’ve done something wonderful instead of dealing with guilt and humiliation. I can sleep better and I feel better. I never knew what gambling had done to me until I stopped and took a good look on the mirror. People react to me differently because I am different. I havent been really late for work or missed a day in months. I’m early, refreshed and have a positive attitude every day. I’m tired, yes, but it’s a good tired and not the mental exhaustion that I had from gambling benders. I get things done. I dont just think about getting them done, I do them right away. Its living in the moment because I am physically and mentally present and able to do things and it is wonderful. I am working on getting myself out of the financial hole I am in without anyone’s help by being thrifty and careful with my funds. It gives me a sense of control and responsibility that fuels my feeling of self reliance and that, in turn, helps to combat any need to gamble. Good things will come in time, and it is said that anything worth having is worth working for, so there lies the rub. Work for what you want to have and be thankful when you have it. Hope you are well and gamble free today
LosingitslowlyParticipantKatana, you should start your own thread so that we can respond to you directly. I hear your pain. I am 57 soon and in a mound of trouble myself but it is never too late to heal. Giving up is an option to those who dont want to heal, but you came on looking for help and we are here. We have all been in the situation where it looks grim, but there are so many that have been here, posting over the years, that have risen above this addiction. Did you know that there are over 50 million addicts world wide ( reported ones) so know that there is strength in numbers. All is not lost. Take one day to clearly mark your direction, make a plan and start again. Please start a thread on your own so that we can all follow you.
LosingitslowlyParticipantCraig, it gets easier with time. It’s no lie, when your brain pathways stop the learned behavior and they start to reroute and fix themselves, the thoughts of gambling get weaker and fewer so that it is easier to resist. They say 30 days or more to stop a fixed behavior or habit. I went 33 then relapsed, and in those 33 days I had thought about it a lot. Tried to find ways to beat my blocks all of the time. After those 33 days and the relapse I thought about it less and less. I rarely have an urge to even think about games anymore and I seldom hear the bonus music in my head anymore. ( yeah, I would hear the bonus theme music from my fave slots in my head calling me like a siren song). I guess it’s TRUE, that once you start to disengage your brain for a long enough time from gambling, the effects start to dissipate and it becomes easier to avoid the urges and thoughts. Just keep trying to put the days behind you. There is no other way to do it except time and self healing. Good luck today.
LosingitslowlyParticipantHi all,
I’ve been back to the 2 jobs again this week and with a schedule change at my full time my week has been rough. It’s the start of vacation time for others at work so I dont always have the same schedule and since I am a creature of habit, it throws a wrench in my daily routine. I have been reading posts and want to comment on each thread when I can. For me, I am still gamble free and not having as much of an issue staying that way this time. I have found that, when I was sticking my head in the sand about all of the financial mess I was in, it was easier to ignore the consequences of my actions. Once u started to address all of my debt and the mess, i couldn’t even begin to put a cent into any slot since i dont have any freed up funds and i am otherwise focused on my mess. It’s like a wet blanket thrown on a smouldering fire. Nothing is happening at this point. I am happy that the urges are not as annoying anymore and i hope that they will continue to dissipate until it’s the last thing i will think about doing in any given day. I still have associated memories that come in flashes once in a while that are a bit bothersome and hard to ignore, but they are usually related to going to the land based casino and since I self excluded, it’s not happening either. All in all I’m not posting every day but I am checking in daily with your posts and hope that all is well today. I hope that you are all strong and gamble free todayLosingitslowlyParticipantMy days are getting back to busy and I feel good about it. They say that idle hands are the devils tools and of that I am guilty, so if I keep my mind and hands on things that are productive and push all of the funds that I have to debt repayment (when I have funds available) I will be in less of a position to cause myself more financial harm. I dont feel like counting days anymore because I feel like if I get to a certain number that I feel too good about where I am and dont want to feel complacent about it. I am gamble free today, so far, and that’s all I can say to make myself feel better. I hope that everyone is strong and gamble free today as well.
LosingitslowlyParticipantWe all know the struggle intimately and can feel your pain and frustration. I know that I had 3 days “off” from work during easter and relapsed on the first one. I am now 10 days in and busy as a bee on purpose. You need to find ways out of the trap that keeps you going back. You need to block access any way you can. You need to give yourself as much help as possible. There is no magic answer for any of us but the best advice is to make sure that you CANT gamble by any means possible until you can stop by choice ( if that ever happens for us) . Keep trying and keep posting.
LosingitslowlyParticipantSo sorry for your loss! We just lost our big baby twice- once in the divorce and then he passed two years ago in his sleep. He had a very long and pampered life so it was an easy passing to accept. It’s hard to lose one that is sick for a spell because its both a loss and relief that they are no longer in pain. Use that strength from loss to push yourself forward and not to go back.
LosingitslowlyParticipantThanks again kin for your concern, and I’m sorry that I didn’t get back to you sooner, but everything is back to busy busy again with work and I struggle to find time to get everything done sometimes. I check posts in the morning while I have coffee but lately I have been waking a bit later than usual so have no time to post in the morning. I am unsure how many days it has been since I last relapsed- I just checked the posts and it is 10 days again. I am trying to forget about gambling altogether while I run my daily life, like a non addict would most likely do, and just get it out of my head. I must say that it is easier to do this this time than before I relapsed and with each time it does take less and less mind power to avoid the thought process. I am hoping this will be the time that I find my way to the path that leads me to a life of gamble free days. I hope that everyone is strong and gamble free today
LosingitslowlyParticipantThanks to all who have been checking in and posting on my thread. I have been busy busy busy all weekend with projects that have me sore and happy to have a few days off. I am doing some landscaping while the weather is nice and some redecorating and decluttering of my daughters room while we are both home. I am sad by my relapse but not beaten. I know that I have the strength to do 33 days again and more. I’ve always said that down time is my enemy and it proves that it is still true even when I have had 30 days clean. I am back on the straight and narrow now and will be busy back to both jobs again next week so the down time issue will once again be fixed, but yes, jvr , you are right, I need to fix the issues that surround my down time relapses. I need to find something that I can do during those times when the house is quiet and I cant make much noise and I need some relaxation. Reading is a love of mine but as I have been getting older I have found that I need to wear glasses to read and I cannot wear them for long or I get a headache. It is something for me to start doing again, perhaps in small stints of time when I am without a major project at hand, and I am going to try it tomorrow. Today I am at laundry, my daughters closet and dressers, a stone retaining wall and easter dinner at my moms. Happy easter everyone.
LosingitslowlyParticipantThanks we win,I needed the absolution. I went home yesterday to an empty house again but didnt even consider touching my computer again. I’ve unplugged all my devices,at home so that they are dead and that will be my sign if I pick it up that I should let it lie. I am back to day two today with a renewed effort to stay clean because now,I can be certain that it will take,lo her than 30 days to affect real change in my thought patterns. I hope that you are strong in your resolve these days and I will think of what you said when I feel a bit hard on myself. Today is a day before out Easter holidays and I hope that, if you celebrate, you have a great easter weekend with people who you trust.
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