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Hi All,
I feel bad at the moment. I had the busy day today, got a great tax return and took Brea to the dentist (she needs 8 fillings, well only 7 now!!!) Anyway, went to my friend Jodes who is moving into her brand new house, had a visit and told her to message me when she was going back down there after tea and i would come around and help.
So, it got to 10 past 8 and im thinking, she must have had trouble with her kids and is running late. I rang her and she was already there and said there wasnt much to do as her aunt was there and had done most of it. Turned out i had turned off the phone when we were at the dentist and hadnt turned it back on. This woman has done soooo much for me, not just at the moment but for the last 20 years. She is the best freind i have ever had and i feel i have let her down by not being there in HER time of need, be it unpacking or anything else for that matter.
My son has daycare tomorrow so im going to go over as soon as i drop him off and do as much as i can for her. Im very annoyed at myself, but im also a bit annoyed at her as i really wanted to help her do this, its the least i can do for her after what she has done for me (you dont know the half of it). I love her like my sister, im closer to her than my sisters and i hope, if she ever reads this that she knows that. I just wanted to give something back to her, she has saved me many times, been my voice of reason, a shoulder to cry on (plenty of that lately) and a wonderful influence on my children. My own personal angel, im a very lucky woman. So, tomorrow, whether she likes it or not ill be there.
I didnt have an urge today, proboably the first day ever.
Wishing you a wonderful gamble free day, Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi All,
Im flat chat today, so i thought id quickly post before i go…im getting my tax return done this morning, hope i get a good refund, i have plenty to claim, then home and Harry to kinder, then Brea to the dentist straight after, then if Jodie gets her keys to her new house ill be helping her unpack.
So thats my day, ill be exhausted by tonight but i have more energy than yesterday and im not too sore, its my shins that are the worst. Sherry, i couldnt ever imagine pushing hay bales, i have no upper body strength whatsoever so well done to you. Its raining here today, a bit miserable, but i did have a good night at work, no dramas. This weekend is my weekend on, which i dread each and every time and then when its over i think, well, that wasnt so bad. I think its the early mornings that kill me.
Anyway, wishing you all a happy gamble free day,
Bye for now, Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi All,
Im pretty flat this morning, it seems to take me till lunch time to perk up….i have no energy when i get up and im still really tired. Plus, Mount Vesuvius has decided to pop up on my face…could i look any worse today.
Ive got work this afternoon, im sure ill be feeling more energetic by then. Im all the 3’s today, 33 days gamble free, its a nice feeling. I must say, im not sore from my big walks yesterday, i have heard that the 3rd day is the worst.
Well, just wanted to pop in a little note, i HAVE to get off my bum and do something.
Have a great day all,
Bye for now, Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi All,
I had a no post day yesterday…i think i was so drained and tired, plus i was a bit nervous about going to work, was i going to break down and be a bawling mess??? I got to work and walked around the staff room corner and there was my friend Gerry, she left a couple of months ago and sometimes does fill in shifts. Higher Power looking after me? I think so. She is one tough cookie and really looked after me when i started this job. She has been nursing for about 20 yrs and has taught me soooo much. As soon as i saw her, i told her everything, she made me a coffee and we talked and talked. I knew my night was going to be fine. And it was.
When i got home, Brea was in the shower and when she got out she came into the lounge and said hi. I knew that something was up but she said she was going to bed and walked out of the room. I called her back in and made her sit down next to me and tell me what was going on. She started crying (her first real emotion) and said that this whole situation was horrible. Damian got out of bed so the 3 of us sat and talked. She said she needed to talk about it, she couldnt see why we were so upset, she wanted to get back to normal. I told her that we would proboably be facing a new kind of normal and we just had to go slow and work out what that was. We then talked about the visit (sasha, brea and the boys) and Dames said he didnt want to take them. I told him he had to, like it or not. Brea then asked if i would be going and i said no. I think she wants me to go but at this point i dont think i can do it, not even for her. I think i would make things more uncomfortable for them as i would be an emotional wreck.
I dont know if any air was cleared, but she is 18 and im trying really hard not to be depressed or upset in front of her…im obviously doing a terrible job. I can only do what i can do.
I am having moments of clarity when i think maybe down the track i could be involved, but i also feel that where Sasha is concerned it is none of my business, only the parts that concern my children. It truly has nothing to do with me in the sense that she is not related to me so i kind of feel im intruding? (dont know if that is the right word)
Anyway, im rambling a bit, i do know that i feel a bit better and im coming to terms with it all. Whats done is done and cant be undone. Brea wants me to make the best of it, and i am truly trying to see things in a positive light but it has only been 7 days today (god, this time last week i was as happy as a lark) i need time and i feel that im being pressured to be over it all already and its just not going to happen overnight. They need to be patient with me for once!
On a positive, i went for a walk with my girlfriend this morning after dropping Harry at Kinder (pre-school). It wasnt all that bad, i have more energy today, hmmm maybe i can do the vacuming. The hammys were screaming by the end of it but i made it. There was no talk of the last weeks events (well, not much) and we chatted in between the huffing and puffing (mostly mine). I think i have finally breathed out, so hopefully things will get much better from here. On a personal note, Damian and i have never been so close, both emotionally and physically (sorry guys!!). We havent had a REAL marriage for a long time , so maybe this will be the good thing that comes, us getting closer. I think we have a new appreciation for each other. He has been very good to me during all this. Very attentative and tuned in to my feelings. I think thats the first time ever.
Sorry this was so long, i was only going to do a short post and it all just came out. I havent gambled for i think 32 days now, im pretty proud of that.
I hope you all hae a wonderful gamble free day,
Bye for now, Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi All,
I dont have much to say today…its been fairly quiet, i went and saw mum and Jode, and just potted around the house. I am feeling better, if only a little, but im having small, i dont know, anxiety, nausea attacks that last for about half an hour. I dont know how i feel today, a bit numb which is nice for a change, but the brain is still on overload. I ordered the DNA test today, it took me all my strength to submit it, but i did…small steps. I know whats coming, and i need to get ready for it.
Im sorry that i havent been posting a lot, but i have been reading…. im 31 days today. In the grand scheme of things it is a small achievement, im too busy trying to clear my head and it is one of the most difficult things i try to do… its when i go to bed, im so tired and as soon as i lie down…HELLO!!!!
Im going back to work tomorrow afternoon, theres no point me sitting here, im better off doing something, anything that will take my mind off.
Anyway, thank you all for caring, it means the world.
Bye for now, Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantGrace, Vera and erin, thank you for your posts…and thank you erin for making me lol. I truly did!!!!! So i did really well today until he rang to tell me he was coming home.You know, fear of the unknown…my head was doing 360’s. He came home and i was in bed (the only place i felt i could hide). He told me that they had the meeting at the house, surprise surprise, kick in the guts #1. He then told me he said all the things that we had discussed, the paternity test, the fact that i was devastated (fester started crying apparently….boo frickity hoo!!!) the time it will take to come to terms with this when the test comes back positive ( i just know it will). He then spoke about our kids, kick #2, but told them that Brea didnt know.
He was there for about 2and a half hours. Im not sure if the husband was there, hmmm must ask him bout that but i know her other children were. The story goes that when she got pregnant, she told her family that the father was a low life drug addict in the hope that no one would ever look for him. WRONG!!!!!
She asked Dames if she could give him a letter to give to me. He said no way, the right answer as far as im concerned. So for now, the worst is over, we wait for the test, that will be a massive kick….not looking forward to that even if my heart is saying it will be his. I think he did a pretty good job, IF what he is saying is the truth. You know, yesterday i went through all his cupboards and drawers, looking for ??????? Stupid i know, i still dont know why i did it.
He is giving me some space….gone to a mates for a beer. When hes here i dont want him and when hes not i do. I truly am a lunatic. Anyway, thanks all, Bye for now, Kathryn xx
Fighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi All,
So he has left..and i didnt even cry!!!!
I have to say, i saw the photo of the mother and from now on i am calling her fester…(uncle fester..addams family) The relief i felt when i saw it was unbelieveable. I dont know if it is a normal thought to be threatened by her, not that i am anymore. But thats how i felt and i needed to see exactly what i believed to be ‘up against’. Yes, Marilee, we have so many unanswered questions about the whole situation but to be frank, i dont care what she went through (fester that is), i cannot sympathise with her for one second. They have had 15 years to adjust, decide what they were going to do. We have had 3 days. She is doing what is best for HER daughter, thats all well and good but every thought in my head revolves around my children. The anger has gone, to an extent, but when i think of them, i feel absolutely nothing. Well, not nothing, i dont know what i feel to be honest but not one thought is positive.
As for the one night stand, yes, according to Dames it was…i have told him i have to believe he was so drunk he didnt know what he was doing and i dont want to know if it was any different.
We had an absolutely rip snorting screaming fight last night…he was in the shower, he came home with an attitude and i went in there and gave it to him. We needed it, i told him that he f***** her and made a baby and now we have to live with that, with his actions…he went balistic and said that he would have to live with this for the rest of his life…and with that came the taunts from his friends, his family and anyone else. We both ended up hysterical…I told him that the only people that matter was him and me, all the others can go to hell.
Once it calmed down, we talked, he told me what he was feeling, how he was scared to lose everything. I told him he wasnt losing us, we love him and can face anything that comes.
I cannot think of that young girl…my head tells me its not her fault, she didnt ask to be born, but i cannot imagine her walking into my house, ever…maybe that will change, after all, im feeling much more positive today, not for the situation, but for my relationship. I told my sister last night, she said that it has nothing to do with me, i am just affected by it and shes right. I dont have to do anything i dont want to do.
Unfortunately, my reality is not going to change…i dont have the ability yet to change my perception, im sure that will come in time, and if it doesnt, well ill worry about it then. The worst is over, nothing can be as bad as Tuesday night. Dames and i have decided we need to be kind to each other, stick together and work on OUR family. Thats all i can do at the moment, as for fester, i truly hope she is feeling as sick and upset as i have been. She is seeing things from her perspective, i have to wonder if there is another agenda there. If she is having as much trouble with this girl as she says..maybe shes looking to pass the buck, maybe she thinks that this meeting will change her daughters (and her) life. Well, she has changed my life. This is going to take me a long time to work through, my emotions are still very raw, as im sure you can see, im changing my mind every 5 minutes.
As for my gambling, its day 29, i have to say, the thought comes into my head for about half a second and it is gone, my head is too full of everything else at the moment to worry about it. So thats one blessing i guess???
Thanks to all who posted. You know its appreciated, every one makes me feel a little better.
Ill let you know how it went…Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantI feel sick to my stomach today…tomorrow hes going to see them. I have just had a big talk with my girl, i asker her how she really felt about it..she is taking it in her stride, she just wants to know for sure, as do i and i think once we do we can move forward. I also talked about the things that might happen with this child, the visit and all that. I have told her that no matter what, she needs to do what is right for her. I dont want her doing or not doing what she wants because she will hurt my feelings. Regardless of what happens, i am hurt, and i told her that but i also told her that i WOULD be alright. It is all about her and what she wants to happen and when. I also said that she would be a part of any discussion in regards to the kids visiting the girl.
I am going to see my sister tonight, for tea and to tell her whats going on. I have told Dames i am going to my GA meeting, he is a private person and wouldnt want me to say anything but i have to talk to my sister. As with recovery, i am doing what i need to do. After that im coming home to talk to him. I need to find out what he plans to say, what he will say about my family. I dont want them to know that Brea knows, i feel it will open a can of worms and im not prepared for me or Brea to be put in a position she does not want to be in. We dont even know if the test will come back positive yet and i dont want anything else planned, 1.without my input and 2.until we know for sure.
I asked Dames last night what the slut/mother looked like. He told me she was fat and ugly. I said i didnt believe him and then he said there is a photo of her at his brothers. When she faxed the photo of the girl, there was a photo of her as well. I need to see that photo. I need that woman to be fat and ugly. I need to ease my mind that she is not a blonde, gorgeous skinny thing. I do see her as a threat, i know she is married, but i know the other women will understand, its a vanity thing. I need to be better than her. Make sense…hmmmm maybe i am going crazy.
Anyway, you will all be pleased to know that i havent shed a tear today. Im saving them up for tomorrow!!!!
Again, thanks to all of you who posted, it keeps me busy and i do believe my insanity may just be helping you not think about your gambling…..isnt it better when someone has a drama you can focus on!!!!have a great day all, you are all my friends and i am truly grateful
Bye for now, Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi All,
I dont know where to start this time. Firstly to Alison, i am so pleased you are going to self exclude, it was the best thing i ever did and i hope you confront it with a sense of pride. You should be so proud of yourself..it is a big step but i believe (at least for me) that it is a necessary one.
Compulsive, i have to admit, i was very angry when i read your post. Why shouldnt i be angry? The life i thought i had with my family is gone….then i read it again…there is no productive use for anger. I am not saying that im still not feeling it, but my life with my family is NOT gone. I have a tendancy to withdraw when things are going awry, and my god, they are going awry at the moment. Im still having trouble grasping it, it has only been 2 days so im not expecting a miracle. I have at least stopped crying. So Ray, your t-shirt is safe.
Ray, you and my best friend have the same belief. She keeps saying ‘everything happens for a reason’. I KNOW she is right, it is just soooo hard to think of what possible reason this could be. What i do know is this, Jodie said to me today that if i had of known, we would never have got back together, and we wouldnt have our beautiful boys..she is right. I am trying to stop playing the victim here and have a bit of control…Dames and i talked a bit tonight and i told him that i could not agree to any more contact until after the DNA test had been done and i didnt know how long after that. Everything has just moved so fast…
He said that he was telling them that very thing, i was not so sure, you are a yes man. Not this time he says. We will see. He also came home with a huge bunch of flowers, he has NEVER bought me flowers in all the years we have been together. I had to be smart didnt i….’ Well, you always said i would know when something bad had happened cause you would buy me flowers’. I have to say, it felt good, much to my regret.
Saturday is going to be the killer for me when he leaves to go up and meet her. I cant even think about it at this stage… you all know how my mind works and i have some horrific images going on in there. He will fall in love with her at first sight, they’ll be cuddles and tears, he wont be able to leave there, it goes on and on and on. I know it is soooo mean, and i will go to hell for it, but i dont want him to like her. I know i will ask him every question known to man when he comes home…i need to know everything, and i know its not what i want to hear. But i need to know the truth, otherwise i will never be able to accept the reality of whatever this meeting will bring.
So down to Ray, i have not taken one bit of offence to your post, in fact i thought it was very kind. I am starting to feel (just the tiniest bit) that i might get through this, that our marriage might get through, that i will start to believe that there is a reason for this. As the days go on, im sure i will be on here calling him for everything, but if i can heal just a little bit every day, i might be alright.
Lastly, words of wisdom from my beautiful, talented, amazing, mature daughter….she said to me tonight, you will always be our mum, and nothing in the world is ever going to change that. I said to her that i wasnt the only mum in his life anymore and she said, you are the only mum in ours…(now im crying…bugger)
How lucky am i? Thanks for reading, Kathryn xx
Fighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi compulsive…
If the roles were reversed we would have never got back together bacause we would have known then. its a bit difficult to hide a pregnancy…that is unless of course you are the lying bitch that decided not to tell MY husband that you are pregnant. Then decide 15 years later that its time to. You know, she told him to tell me that she was sorry and didnt want to disrupt my family in any way. HOW KIND OF HER.
If i had given up a child for adoption when i was 15 and they decided to find me and i had never told my husband i would expect him to react EXACTLY as i am. Betrayal…that may be the wrong word for it, i know (at least i think) that he didnt know about the child. I cannot, at this moment in time take anything in my stride. I am full of sadness. Full to the brim. And thank you for the advice on Brea, Vera, i know she doesnt need my burden and i will try my very best to leave her out of it. I know i cant change the situation, but i cant change how im feeling and that includes all the tears. I cant cry forever can i?
I dont know where to start in terms of counselling and legalities. I need to look into things. My brain is fried. My eyes do look like 2 spoons of jam (love that) I could pass for chinese at the moment. I got out of the gambling fog, maybe i need to get out of the ‘your husband has a child to someone else’ fog and see how i go
Fighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantI woke up this morning……
The birds were singing and….hang on, SLAP SLAP SLAP. Oh..thats right. Now i remember……
I have a fury in me i didnt know existed. I am beyond angry, i dont know what the word is. And cue the tears….I am SICK TO DEATH of crying. I cannot stop. Dames came in and said "how are you?". He wanted me to say "im great", not a care in the world. Sorry mate, heres how it is….. You slept with someone else and made a baby. He says he didnt know, my god he had better not be lying to me. Vera, you hit the nail right on the head. I could barely read your post for the bawling.. I am betrayed, in the worst possible way.
Thank you for letting me know it is all right to feel this way. I want to stab that woman in the heart. Cause thats what she has done to me. I told Dames, if i come up in the conversation, he is NOT to say that im ok. Im not ok and i dont know that i ever will be. I dont know if we will make it through this…its just another kick in the guts to what has been a lifetime of hurt. One thing after the next…how much more can i take? It feels like the pain is never going to end. Yes, we go through him meeting the lovely Sasha, then meet the kids, then, meet the family, then Christmas, then Birthdays, then wedding, then, grandchildren. Well, HIS grandchildren.
Thank you Nancy for your input, i can only pray to god that this will be the situation for us. I dont care if it sounds mean…i am not going with him to meet her. Found out last night that he is going to her house. Apparently the bitchs husband is going to be there… Cant you see it, lets bring out the baby photos!!! He told me this morning he wouldnt go if i was that upset. The fact is that i cannot keep feeling like this, i cant go for another week or month. Get the damn thing over with. I dont think i could sit there, i would end up slapping her face. I dont want to see Sasha. I have told him that when the time comes to meet the kids i cant be there, i cant do it. I know that little girl didnt ask to be born but frankly i dont give a ****.
Dames is trying to be kind, hes being very considerate of me, checking on me every 5 minutes, making me coffee cause i cant eat a damn thing. Thats all very nice but how about going back 15 years and not having drunken sex with that woman. That is the only thing that is going to make it ok. Vera, i have been saying the serenity prayer over and over. I cant accept this, i dont know how. I cant get past my own pain to see anything else at the moment. I want to curl up and go to sleep and never wake up and never have to think about it again. Better still, ill go and sit at a machine and watch the reels spin until i pass out. No, i am not going to gamble. He is not going to let this turn me into that evil person again.
Poor Brea came in this morning and i was a bawling mess. I dont want her to feel that she cant cry or say anything to me because im a wreck. I dont know how much to say to her, should i just tell her how i feel? I dont want to burden her with my stuff. Her and Dames were in the lounge last night laughing and talking. I know its there way but it makes me feel im the abnormal one. I think i need counselling. I dont think i can get through without it.
Dames just messaged me saying to remember i am his world and will always come first. I know he is trying so hard….
Anyway, thanks for reading. Any advice would be helpful. I need to get past this and ACCEPT. Unfortunately, that is the hardest thing to do.
Bye for now, Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantIm so sorry about the swear word…it felt so good writing it and i just assumed it would be blanked out so my apologiesFighting the good fight…One day at a time
kathrynParticipantSo he rang her, the woman i HATE for keeping this secret for so long. What was the good of it…nothing i tell you. I have never felt pain like this and ive had 3 kids lol (just)
So how is this…hes going to meet them on Saturday…they are going to sit down and explain to the child that they are going to do a DNA test. HE IS GOING TO MEET HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Needless to say, i went balistic..wouldnt it be better if we get the results FIRST!!!Oh no, they had a lovely chat, him and the she devil, laughing, everything is FINE. ITS NOT FUCKING FINE. How lovely for them to have the first contact, the first meeting of many im sure. I know im being a bitch but i do not care one bit. He even called her ‘love’. How wonderful, the happy family. I cant believe this is happening…can someone please pinch, slap, kick me and wake me up from this nightmare??? PLEASE!!
He says he didnt mean it…’should i have called her a ****???’ he asked me… YES YOU SHOULD CAUSE SHE IS ONE.
Ok, ive had a rant, im sorry but it had to be done. We have talked a lot. We never talk. I told him he needs to start talking to me, all the time, about everything or we are not going to get through this. We also told our Bubba Brea. I didnt feel it was right if Sasha (the love child) knew anything before our baby girl did. She took it amazingly well. She thought it was much worse…jail or murder. I could do both at this stage…
I truly dont know if i can do this. I feel so betrayed. He didnt know about it, i know that but god, this is a life thing. I dont know if i can ever accept her, shes not my blood, im out of the loop now. The one thing, really good and amazing thing that I AND I ALONE had was the children. His children. My bestie, Jode, asked me what i needed. I told her i need it to be yesterday before this happened. I dont know what im going to do. i am not coping big time. I am crying at least every 15 mins, he cant understand it. I dont know what else to say.
I havent gambled and that is a positive..i hope you have all had a wonderful gamble free day.
Bye for now, Kathryn xx
ps…if there is a movie made Al, Anjelina Jolie needs to play me!!!Fighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi All,
Thank you Vera and Al for your posts. And thank you for last night…i just needed to sit and read and laugh and try not to think about the news i had just recieved.
So here is is….My husband and i split up for a while (nearly 2 yrs) after we had got married. Brea was only 2. We have tried really hard to make it work…and succeeded. His brother came to see him last night, he had recieved a phone call from a woman, and, thinking it was my husband, she proceeded to tell him that she had a daughter, 15 yrs old and that she is his.
When i got home from work, he told me that his brother had been to see him..(after he told me to go and light a smoke!!) and he told me the news. I am totally devastated, so is he. A one night stand he says, i dont care about that, we were split up and i was no angel myself during that time.
Apparently the young girl wants to know who her dad is, and rightly so, but the implications for my family are huge. I dont know how we are going to tell OUR daughter. I have already looked into DNA testing, my husband needs to ring this woman and talk to her. We need to know for sure before we tell anyone. I am an emotional wreck, cant stop crying, everytime i look at my kids i cry. I wanted to be the only woman to have his children. Up until yesterday, i was. i dont know how to feel…if i ever wanted to gamble it is now. i just dont know what to do. I rang work and told my boss everything, there was no way i could work today. I look like something out of the swamp.
Luckily my boss was very understanding, i dont have to work again till monday, thank goodness. I dont think i can concentrate giving medications in my state of mind. I know for some, it is not the worst thing in the world, but this is my world and it has been shattered. I am broken hearted, my husband thinks im going to leave him which is certainly not the case. I have worked to hard and to long on our relationship to give it up now. I have told him so…last night i sat and cried and he sat trying to apologise. It was horrendous. He is saying he doesnt want anything to do with her, i know that is for my benefit but what about her. I am so torn, i do understand her wanting to know her dad, but my family comes first. There is nothing i can do until we have the results. We need to do that and work out what to do from there.
Thanks for listening, i feel like im in a movie..its so surreal.
Take care,
Kathryn xx
Fighting the good fight…One day at a timekathrynParticipantHi All,
Day 25…i went back and read my very first post last night. I cant believe how desperate i was. I remember the feeling well. How nice to be here today, still a bit stressed, still getting lots of urges but not gambling. I could hear the desperation oozing out of me…help me!!!! I have been helped so much by this site.
Thank you to all who take the time to read and post on my thread. Each one makes me a little stronger. I truly feel i am on the right road and am so grateful you are all here with me. I think im a bit emotional today, not about anything in particular…..
Im working tonight, im wearing my footy scarf…i wont be popular!!!! I CANT WAIT! Anyway, i just wanted to check in..i now have to go and iron a huge basket of washing. Im sooooo over washing, where does it all come from..its neverending in my house. Oh well, has to be done.
I hope you are all having a wonderful gamble free day, oh, and Alison, i am in Portarlington, on the Bellarine Peninsula, other side of Geelong.
Stay well and have a happy gamble free day,
Bye for now, Kathryn xxFighting the good fight…One day at a time -
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