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I hope you guys make it, really do. Especially Murr, who I’m very worried about right now. We haven’t heard from him in at least a month. His story is very compelling, and I want it to have a happy ending, not see him tortured by this terrible disease. If memory serves, he ran out of money to gamble which while it isn’t ideal, may have helped.
People are so much more than their gambling problem. Murr could be any one of us. In fact, it seems he is…
Ik hoop dat jullie het halen, echt waar. Vooral Murr, over wie ik me nu veel zorgen maak. We hebben al minstens een maand niets van hem gehoord. Zijn verhaal is erg meeslepend, en ik wil dat het een happy end heeft, niet dat hij wordt gemarteld door deze vreselijke ziekte. Als het geheugen hem dient, had hij geen geld meer om te gokken, wat misschien heeft geholpen, hoewel het niet ideaal is. Mensen zijn zoveel meer dan hun gokprobleem. Murr kan ieder van ons zijn. Sterker nog, het lijkt erop dat hij…
Надявам се, че ще успеете, наистина. Особено Мър, за когото съм много притеснен в момента. Не сме се чували с него от поне месец. Историята му е много завладяваща и искам тя да има щастлив край, а не да го виждам измъчван от тази ужасна болест. Ако паметта не ме изненадва, той остана без пари, за да залага, което, макар и да не е идеално, може да е помогнало. Хората са много повече от техния проблем с хазарта. Мър може да бъде всеки от нас. Всъщност изглежда, че е …
Wow, that’s a terrible predicament to be in. I feel really bad for you Murr, but hey – you are young! You can still mess up at 31 and have time to turn things around. Start saving for retirement the second you have those debts re-paid. Even a 1 year difference can be huge, so the earlier you start the better due to compound interest. You know how it works against you when you have credit card debt? It can also work FOR you once you start saving/investing. Look at it that way.. Instead of owing $75,000 you could have that in a Roth IRA for your future!
YOu did it once, you can do it again!
Wauw, dat is een vreselijke hachelijke situatie om in te zitten. Ik vind het heel erg voor je Murr, maar hey – je bent jong! Je kunt het nog steeds verknoeien als je 31 bent en tijd hebt om dingen om te draaien. Begin met sparen voor uw pensioen zodra u die schulden heeft terugbetaald. Zelfs een verschil van 1 jaar kan enorm zijn, dus hoe eerder u begint, hoe beter vanwege samengestelde rente. Weet je hoe het tegen je werkt als je creditcardschuld hebt? Het kan ook VOOR u werken zodra u begint met sparen/beleggen. Bekijk het op die manier.. In plaats van $75.000 schuldig te zijn, zou je dat in een Roth IRA voor je toekomst kunnen hebben! Je hebt het een keer gedaan, je kunt het nog een keer doen!
Уау, това е ужасно затруднено положение. Чувствам се много зле за теб, Мър, но хей – ти си млад! Все още можете да объркате на 31 и да имате време да обърнете нещата. Започнете да спестявате за пенсиониране, след като тези дългове бъдат изплатени отново. Дори една година разлика може да бъде огромна, така че колкото по -рано започнете, толкова по -добре поради сложната лихва. Знаете ли как работи срещу вас, когато имате дълг по кредитна карта? Може да работи и за вас, след като започнете да спестявате/инвестирате. Погледнете го по този начин .. Вместо да дължите 75 000 долара, можете да имате това в Roth IRA за бъдещето си! Направихте го веднъж, можете да го направите отново!
Hallo Murr, beschouw me als een andere persoon die voor je steunt en hoopt dat je ons op de hoogte houdt. De eerlijkheid die je hebt gedeeld is fenomenaal, en ik denk dat dat de sleutel is om deze verslaving te verslaan. Je GF-reeks van 18 maanden is BEWIJS dat je hebt wat nodig is om dit te verslaan. Er is hier niemand die niet is gestruikeld. Sterker nog, ik denk dat het een noodzakelijk onderdeel van het proces is. Je wordt neergeslagen, maar staat dan meteen weer op! Blokkeer/vergeet de negatieve mensen in je leven en ga om met positieve, goedbedoelende mensen die het beste voor je willen. Er zijn er hier veel, dus ik hoop dat je er je voordeel mee zult doen…
Здравейте Мър, считайте ме за друг човек, който се вкоренява за вас и се надява да ни държите в течение. Честността, която споделихте, е феноменална и мисля, че това е ключът към преодоляването на тази зависимост. Вашата 18 -месечна серия от GF е ДОКАЗАТЕЛНА, че имате всичко необходимо, за да победите това. Тук няма човек, който да не се е спънал по пътя. Всъщност смятам, че това е необходима част от процеса. Ще бъдете съборени, но след това се изправете отново! Блокирайте/забравете за негативните хора в живота си и общувайте с позитивни, добронамерени хора, които искат най -доброто за вас. Тук има много, така че се надявам да се възползвате …
Hi Murr,
Count me as another person rooting for you and hoping you’ll keep us updated. The honesty you’ve shared is phenomenal, and I think that’s key to beating this addiction. Your 18 months GF streak is PROOF you have what it takes to beat this. There isn’t a person here who hasn’t stumbled along the way. In fact, I think its a necessary part of the process. You get knocked down, but then get right back up!
Block/forget about the negative people in your life and associate with positive, well meaning people who want the best for you. There are many here, so I hope you’ll take advantage…
Murr не заслужава да бъде бичуван тук. Можеше да изразиш мнението си много по -тактично. Той щеше да разбере, всички останали също биха разбрали. Не е готино Плаза, не е готино. Той не е съвършен от моя Бог, който е такъв. И има ли НЯКОЙ, който да не се е повтарял тук? Не знам колко публикации съм чел за хора, които се опитват да се откажат, но нито една не мога да си спомня къде не са се повторили. Нямам тази зависимост, но не е нужно да я имате, за да разберете колко е силна. Това е лошата новина .. Добрата новина е, че хората са я победили и са обърнали живота си. Мър го направи веднъж, може да го направи отново. Аз например съм в неговия ъгъл и се надявам това стационарно нещо да помогне. Ясно е, че тази зависимост е силна, разрушителна не само за нечии финанси и безмилостна. Никога не спи. Никога не си отива. Изчаква, докато станете най -уязвими, след това нанася удар без предупреждение, взема всичко и изчезва за известно време. Не е лесно да се бориш със скрит противник. Необходими са крайни мерки, за да се победи, а една от тях е отказването на достъп до вашите собствени пари/кредит. Изглежда, че биха спрели нещата, поне в повечето случаи. Ако не правите това, не сте готови да напуснете IMO ..
Murr verdient het niet om hier gegeseld te worden. Je had je punt veel tactvoller kunnen maken. Hij zou het begrepen hebben, en alle anderen ook. Niet cool Plaza, niet cool. Hij is niet perfect bij mijn God, die is dat wel. En is er IEDEREEN die hier niet is teruggevallen? Ik weet niet hoeveel berichten ik heb gelezen over mensen die probeerden te stoppen, maar ik kan me geen enkele herinneren waar ze NIET terugvielen. Ik heb deze verslaving niet, maar je hoeft het niet te hebben om te begrijpen hoe krachtig het is. Dat is het slechte nieuws.. Het goede nieuws is dat mensen het HEBBEN geslagen en hun leven hebben veranderd. Murr deed het een keer, hij kan het nog een keer. Ik zit bijvoorbeeld in zijn hoek en hoop dat dit intramurale ding zal helpen. Het is duidelijk dat deze verslaving sterk is, destructief voor niet alleen iemands financiën en meedogenloos. Het slaapt nooit. Gaat nooit weg. Ligt op de loer tot je het meest kwetsbaar bent, slaat dan toe zonder waarschuwing, pakt alles en verdwijnt voor een tijdje. Het is niet gemakkelijk om tegen een sluipende tegenstander te vechten. Extreme maatregelen die nodig zijn om het te verslaan, en een daarvan is het opgeven van toegang tot uw eigen geld / krediet. Lijkt een einde te maken aan de dingen, althans in de meeste gevallen. Als je dit niet doet, ben je niet klaar om IMO te stoppen.
Murr doesn’t deserve to be flogged on here. You could have made your point a lot more tactfully. He would have understood, everyone else would have too. Not cool Plaza, not cool.
He isn’t perfect by my God, who is. And is there ANYONE that hasn’t relapsed on here? I dunno how many posts I’ve read about people trying to quit, but not a single one can I remember where they DIDN’T relapse. I don’t have this addiction, but you don’t need to have it to understand how powerful it is. That’s the bad news..
The good news is that people HAVE beaten it and turned their lives around. Murr did it once, he can do it again. I for one am in his corner and hoping this inpatient thing will help. It’s clear this addiction is strong, destructive to not just one’s finances and relentless. It never sleeps. Never goes away. Lies in wait until you are most vulnerable, then strikes without warning, takes everything and disappears for awhile.
Not easy fighting a stealthy opponent. Extreme measures required to beat it, and one of those is giving up access to your own money/credit. Would seem to put a stop to things, at least in most cases. If you’re not doing this, you’re not ready to quit IMO..
Way to go Murr!
You sound like you’re in a better place. Keep fighting, and keep winning. We all want to see you succeed, and many here are rooting for you..
Don’t do it!
Murr,
It’s OK man, we understand. I agree its time to tell the family, as you’ll need their support too (in addition to professional help). If you have a family that’s willing to stand by you, take you in, clothe you, feed you etc. AND you have your health – you have EVERYTHING. Please don’t compound things with the booze, it will only cause you to make more bad choices. Remember this, OK? You lost the battle, not the war.
Big difference
The US took a big hit at Pearl Harbor, something it almost didn’t recover from. Almost.. But look what happened – we turned things around at the battle of Midway. Struck a crippling blow to the Japanese fleet, and went on to drop the big one on Hiroshima/Nagasaki to win the war. I believe 100% you’ll turn this around too. You don’t need this sick, vicious cycle of winning it all, losing it all, winning some back then losing everything (plus some). It’s no way to live, and I hope and pray you take just 1 day at a time and beat this disease – once and for all!
Please keep us posted. I really want to see “Day 1 gF”, “Day 20 gf, Day 90 gf etc). We believe in you Murr!