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  • in reply to: My diary #28788
    jansdad
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    ik ben joegoslaaf oorspronkelijk maar woonde een tijdje in NL.

    I started gambling at early age and gambling is big part of my identity. Everyone I know I know through gambling. Even my wife who worked there at the time. And yes gambling is fun and even beneficial (good contacts, nice people, a lot of fun) if you’re able to contain it.
    I was able to for many years. But then the addiction progressed and the losses far outweighed the benefits I was getting from gambling. Why don’t you go and play video games and hang out with kids who are playing games or do sports or whatever. Once you get hooked onto gambling it only gets worse if you continue to gamble it never gets better.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27558
    jansdad
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    Oh, yes, day #3 today. 75 hours and counting… whoohooo
    Could have been 75 days soon, but oh well

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27557
    jansdad
    Participant

    Thanks geordie and charles. I love the “just because the monkeys off your back, don’t mean the circus has left town” phrase. Never heard it before, but it is awesome as it is amusing and true.

    You’re right geordie, it wasn’t a slip. Well as a matter of fact it depends a great deal on how we define “a slip”, but in my book it wasn’t a slip.

    I should have seen it coming while having a dinner at that place last saturday. I had already made my mind to go and check the game after the dinner and as I was finishing the dinner I started fidgeting. I felt the adrenaline rushing through my head and I wanted to get there as quickly as possible. I tried to keep calm, I even went to the john slowly, washed my hands slowly, dried my hands slowly trying to remain cool, but I knew deep down that I was going to gamble. I knew I wasn’t gonna wait patiently for good cards, I knew I wasn’t gonna play only for 2 hours and then leave no matter what.
    I did it to myself, it was no slip, it was planned and premeditated. And if I’m 100% honest i probably even knew there would be a good chance I would try and chase that money later online should I lose in the live cash game.

    Anyway trying to keep busy now and get my life back in good shape. I know I cannot do it in one day, but every day that I’m productive is a small step towards that big goal.

    in reply to: My diary #28787
    jansdad
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    Hey lauwtjee. Nederlander, toch?

    I remember myself at your age, a quarter of a century ago I was in Amsterdam all by myself with a nasty gambling addiction. Back then slots (fruit kasten) were everywhere, I played those for a couple of months but then somehow got over it. I used to work as a waiter and I got paid daily. And of course I would gamble my daily wages on those slots every day. Then one day I was walking home and i wanted to go to a pub where they had these slots, but instead, without thinking I started running away from that place and towards my home like a mad man.
    I never play slots after that.
    But you know how it goes, altijd verrasing maar zelden een leuke, I upgraded to better and bigger things and started going to the Holland Casino. This was before they had poker and I played first roulette and then black jack. I was losing more than i could afford. It was horrible. I even banned myself but then used a friend’s ID to get in. He didn’t even look like me, that’s how desperate and addicted I was.

    25 years later I’m still fighting the same demons. Sometimes with more sometimes with less success.

    You don’t want to play even with play money, believe me. You want to stay away from anything gambling related. Don’t let another 25 years pass before you realize it.

    Success jongen!

    in reply to: Groundhog Day #28831
    jansdad
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    I love this site, there’s a lot of wisdom here. I’m not a very optimistic person either. As a matter of fact I often imagine very bad scenarios and I often have nightmares.

    I think there’s even a term in psychology for this condition it’s like we think that if we “predict” all bad things that could happen, they actually won’t happen. Which is crazy of course. God doesn’t play dice. Or rather dice don’t have memory. Or something along those lines 🙂

    But yes, being positive is important. My wife is a very positive person and I love her for that among many other things I love her for. I have learned and am still learning a lot from her.

    Kudos on day 9 Fritz. Jansdad = SQR(Fritz) today 😀

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27554
    jansdad
    Participant

    Day #2 today. I’ve been clean for 49 hours exactly now. Yipeee.

    But I feel good and confident and am not going back to that misery. Too many things to catch up with.

    in reply to: Groundhog Day #28828
    jansdad
    Participant

    “For me, once I have a plan to gamble, it’s almost like I feel as though I have already committed the act, and I begin telling myself there is no turning back now.”

    Yep, the same here. It was crazy how often and how fast a simple single thought of gambling would snowball into major major financial losses.

    in reply to: today I lost everything #29017
    jansdad
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    Hey Adam, thanks for sharing and welcome to the forum. I was never able to hold onto the money I had available neither. I could never leave a loser. I would either be up for the session and quit or gamble, stepping up if necessary, to the bitter end.
    I was well aware of this and I made a good portion of my money unavailable / not easily accessible to me. It was in an account in a different country where it would take 2 or 3 days for it to clear into my current account and only then I could use it for gambling. In addition to that the amount I was able to transfer on any single day was limited.
    So whenever I was steaming out of my ears (which was often) I could only lose the money I had available and never the money that was put aside. By the time I transferred the money back to my current account and it cleared I wouldn’t be steaming so badly. Also, whenever I won anything meaningful I would wire it to the account I didn’t have an easy access to.

    Anyway that money you had is gone and you can’t have it back. It is no longer yours. What you can do is make sure you don’t lose more. Actually you can make sure you never lose another penny. Easier said than done, I know. I’ve been fighting my demons for decades and I gambled as recently as yesterday. Go figure.

    I would recommend that you read “the easy way to stop gambling” by allen carr. It is quite a good book.

    Out of curiosity, you mentioned in your post that you’re waiting for a bonus / cashback money from BetFred and if you got it you weren’t sure whether you would gamble with it or cash it out. Were you serious? Did you honestly think there was a slightest chance you would not gamble with it? I’m not trying to rub it in or anything, I just think it’s highly unlikely you honestly thought you would not gamble the money readily available in your betting account. Not to mention the fact that you probably can’t cash out bonus money till you meet their betting requirements (i. e. betting 8x the bonus amount).

    Good luck. And make sure you come here often and post often. you will find it helpfull I’m sure.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27552
    jansdad
    Participant

    Thanks Mav. I love chatting with you too. The fact that we are here is because we’re not able to combat this on our own and we can use all the help we can get.

    Proud of you that you blocked that account rather than playing on it. I blocked my wife’s poker star account after the relapse couple of days ago.

    Because gambling was always such a big part of my life I still have access to a lot of accounts belonging to my friends, but I know I don’t want to do it any more. I want to concentrate on the future and what I can do to make it better for my family and myself. I want to put a lot of effort into work and various projects I’ve been neglecting all along.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27550
    jansdad
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    Day #1 today. And here I am with my tail between my legs. Coulda been day #68, but oh well, it is what it is.
    No point mourning over it. I’m getting myself together and trying to think business and how to secure a decent future for my family and myself.

    A lot like Maverick, I’m pretty much unemployable. And if I had to get a 9 to 5 job which I never held (well other than 2 months when I was 25) I would be miserable.
    I have to stop thinking about the losses and think of the future and what I could do to make it good.
    I had bad nightmares last night. I woke up because I was grinding my teeth really bad. Thank god I have bite-guard, would have broken my teeth without it.

    From now staying away from any form of gambling, no matter how appealing or how fun or innocent it might seem. One bet for me is enough to unleash hell. Gambling puts way too much strain on me not only financially, but also on my health, my parenthood, my relationship with my wife, my sanity…
    There was a time when gambling was a positive thing in my life, but those years are long gone and they’re not coming back. Never. It’s been nothing but misery last 7-8 years.
    I’m dedicated to stopping it for good and never go there again. Never.

    in reply to: New Years Resolutions? #27951
    jansdad
    Participant

    Instead of making resolutions when this year began I decided it would be a year of convalescence for me. I would get into good habits, I would try and exercises more, eat better, sleep better, spend more quality time with my boy and my wife, be more careful with money, learn new things, work on old business ideas…

    And I’m not doing to badly, other than the horrible relapse… I’ve gone 14 times to the gym this year which is more than I’ve gone over the past 5 years, I try not to go to the bed too late, I try to spend more time with my boy and talk more to my wife. I’ve always eaten relatively healthy, but now I try not to eat after 8pm. And like that.

    in reply to: Groundhog Day #28821
    jansdad
    Participant

    The Easy Way by Allen Carr is a great book. I read it 3 times and am in the process of reading it for the 4th time now.
    I mean I don’t like the pep talk and that solemn promise crap, but other than that the book reveals gambling for what it really is.
    It also let’s you get a different perspective on the whole thing, a different mindset.

    But the book in itself doesn’t work magic. No book does I think. At least not for the vast majority of gamblers.

    I thought I had it down so cool after not gambling for 60 days only to relapse big on the 63rd day. I wasn’t getting complacent or anything, I knew the danger is out there, I didn’t lower my guard, i was still coming here almost every day and visited support groups a couple of times a week, but it still hit me. I went onto a gambling spree and lost what I would normally have lost had I been gambling for 2 months.

    In other words, the book is great, but it’s not enough. It’s probably like ‘helping others’ that you mentioned. No doubt great in the beginning, but after a while, chance are it no longer does the trick .

    One other thing, I felt dozens, maybe even hundreds of times in my life absolutely, positively certain, no doubt whatsoever, that I WILL NEVER GAMBLE again. Sometimes I would gamble in matter of minutes. I’m not exaggerating. After a huge loss i would solemnly promise myself I would not gamble again and I would be absolutely certain I wouldn’t. Then I’d get a notification that a friend logged online, I would ask him for money, he would send me the money and off i went.

    You have to find out what works for you. I know coming here helps me. Helping others, coming here, exercising, growing flowers, teaching your kids chess etc might work for you.

    But as p said it probably takes years to fine-tune it…

    Also, you should take everything I say with a grain of salt. I’m the asshole at day #0

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27549
    jansdad
    Participant

    Just read again what you wrote geordie. I always love your posts. Condescending sure, but my actions more than warranted it.

    Thank you.

    in reply to: The start of my recovery #28547
    jansdad
    Participant

    I really like your “I can’t fix my life in one day”. I’ve been so impatient at times. I wanted it all and I wanted it now. Not just gambling (that too), but everything else as well.

    Time to calm down, to reassess, re-evaluate…
    It’s the small steps towards a bigger goal that count.

    And it’s the little things that matter. I have often ignored them. There’s nothing bigger than the little things in life.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27548
    jansdad
    Participant

    Thanks Mav. Will do my best

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