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  • in reply to: On the road to ruin #27446
    jansdad
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    Thanks Geordie again, for your time and input. I appreciate it. I’m on day #22 today and feeling good. Still wary and uncertain and in no mood for celebration. I’ve decided I’ll count the days here every day till the day 100 (if I ever get that far, that is) and after that once a week.
    I guess I’ll never be cured and, as you say, will have to be cautious till the end of my life. Last year my eyes started being quite dry and I went to an ophthalmologist. After examining me the doctor prescribed some eye drops. I asked her how long should be using these and she said “till the rest of your life, probably” 🙂
    So, yes, it’s just something I’ll have to live with. Knowing that I will always be a CG, but at the same time I CAN live gamble free.

    Will be glad to talk to you in real time. What time Thursday? Actually, I will look on the schedule.

    in reply to: New here #27966
    jansdad
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    One analogy I particularly liked in the book is where the author compares gambling to visual illusions pictures. Once you see what’s really in the picture you can never unseen it.
    Once you manage to see gambling from a different perspective, for what it really is, you can’t go back thinking “it gives me pleasure, it’s a great escape place etc.”

    in reply to: Utterly Defeated #28024
    jansdad
    Participant

    You know, on my last gambling day I played black jack too, for the same reason. Poker was too much of a grind, and playing black jack at 1% disadvantage seemed far more prudent then making bad calls at poker with 20-30% negative EV.
    Fools seldom differ.

    in reply to: Utterly Defeated #28021
    jansdad
    Participant

    Hey Canuck. And welcome here.
    I must say I love this sentence “I’m finally admitting 100% defeat to this disease. I think previously I had always clung on to the belief that someday I would be able to gamble like a normal person.”

    I have (had?) been kidding myself for decades that only if I played my A game at poker, only if I didn’t steam, only if I didn’t play when tired, only if I played lower limits – I could definitely beat the game. After all i know people who beat the game constantly and their “A game” is no better than mine.
    Now I know that the few successful gamblers I know maintain their A game most of the time, whereas I start playing terribly after a couple of bad beats. And I know I’m not able to change that. I know I am too much of a compulsive gambler and these few “lucky ones” are not as compulsive. I also know that even if I managed to play my A game all the time (which is pretty much impossible) it would still not be worth my while. I’d be making a few dollars per hour, best case scenario. Worst case scenario (and far more likely than best case scenario) I would end up homeless.

    I now also know that I cannot be a recreational gambler after gambling non stop for 3 decades. It ain’t gonna happen. I cannot have “only one bet”. It is an impossibility.

    And yes, like you I used to envy people who could gamble “like a normal person.”
    But then I read this in a book “you envy them all the time they spend NOT gambling, you don’t envy them the time they spend gambling…” Simple to understand when you put it that way. I recommend you read the Easy Way to Stop Gambling by Allen Carr.

    Come here often, read the stories. I come here daily now and it helps me.

    in reply to: Hello This is My Story… #28015
    jansdad
    Participant

    Hey yogambler. I started gambling actively when I was about your age. Video poker terminals. No one bothered to check ID’s back then.

    I have a lot of respect for you because you already know you need help. Me it took a lot longer.

    Gambling might seem like an ideal escape place, especially if you don’t get along with your schoolmates and your situation at home is not perfect. But it IS NOT. Gambling will offer you no shelter, no comfort, it will fill no void, neither will it solve any other problems you need to address.

    Do yourself a favor and stay away from it. You’re too young to be seriously hooked. But if you’re not careful you will get hooked and you might waste your life a way in slavery, addiction and self loathing.

    What video games you playing? When I was trying to quit gambling a couple of years ago I started playing StarCraft 2. Must have played 5 thousand games. Tremendous waste of time, but at least I didn’t lose any money during playing. Made it to the platinum league, which is by no means spectacular, but it’s decent given my age 🙂

    Kudos on coming here, read a few horror stories, then run away from this place and gambling in general and everything that has to do with it, and never look back kid.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27444
    jansdad
    Participant

    Hey geordie, thank you for your words and input. And no worries, I don’t think you’re having a go at me, and even if you did I’m a big boy I can take a punch or two. Anyway, I’m sure your intentions are nothing but positive.

    And you’re right, I haven’t lost the maximum I could. Not for the last 20 years anyway. I haven’t been forced to start selling my stuff to feed my gambling addiction, I never stole anything, I still have my family, my bills are paid on time and often in advance (this month is actually first time in 20 years that I actually had to borrow some money to pay my bills), but everything else, everything above and beyond (or most of it) I did manage to gamble away.
    I know that a lot of people had gambling take away from them a lot more. And I know it could have or almost certainly would have happened to me as well, 20 years ago, but I got lucky. 20 years ago I was a young kid spending my entire days in Casino in Amsterdam. I had emigrated there 5 years before, I waited tables every day and then gambled my daily pay in the evening. Day in day out. I rented a room, but when I no longer was able to pay for it I moved to a squat. Eventually I got fired from the restaurant where I worked and there were months when I had nothing to eat. At one point I weighed 62kg and I’m over 190cm tall. I was really in a bad shape. People looked down on me everywhere I went, except, well I’m sure you guessed it, in the casino. Everyone I knew there was nice to me.
    Then one day a guy I knew from the casino offered me a job and I started making a lot of money. It was like 20 times more than what I was surviving on up to that point. It was so much money for me back then that the limits that I had been playing were no longer interesting. I mean even if I was extremely, extremely lucky, I would win less than what I was making in one week, so there was no point for me to gamble on roulette, black jack etc. Luckily I didn’t start playing higher limits, I quit casino games altogether and concentrated on poker instead.

    But before that I was heading to a complete disaster. I was late on my rent, I was about to get evicted, I owed friends money, I had nothing to eat. Once, after a nice win I bought a new computer only to sell it for 40 cents on the dollar 2 weeks later… It was horrible.

    Ever since I pay my bills in advance and I have stashes in different places that I don’t have easy access to (sadly I depleted them all last couple of months).
    The only reason my bills were not paid in advance now is that it was the end of the year and the landlady does not want me to pay in advance for the following year as it messes up her accounting. And then, surprise, surprise I lost that money and some more towards the end of last year.

    Anyway poker was good to me for over a decade. I was able to win in spite of tilting and steaming, in spite of playing badly quite often. The other players were even worse. But then it changed around 2007-2008 and I started losing bitterly at poker.

    So, yes, maybe you can say I haven’t reached the rock bottom, but I know it could happen and I’m well aware a couple of bad turns and I could end up homeless. I always knew that. Even when I was making tons of money I was fully aware how quickly could everything change.

    To answer your question, I did block all my accounts, but almost everyone I know is a gambler. Some are really solid guys, some others are desperate losers who live by “misery loves company” and I could borrow one of their accounts and play on it any time I like. Also, even if I don’t have access to my own funds, I can ask one of the many gamblers I know for a loan. If you really want to, there’re always ways to gamble.

    My ultimate goal is to get to the point where I don’t gamble because I don’t have a desire to. Just like I don’t drink alcohol. I know it’s different because I’ve never been alcoholic, I never even drank alcohol and I AM a CG. But I dream of getting to the point where I will have no desire whatsoever.

    And I know if I rely on my will power not to gamble or do it “just this one day” at a time, I will soon lose that battle. I know I have to trick/reprogram or whatever you want to call it my brain differently.

    So, getting ongoing support and living each day as it comes works out for thousands…
    I have no reason to doubt that this is so, but it still proves very little. We don’t know how many people have tried it and failed. If it works for thousands but tens of thousands fail at it, then it’s obviously not for everyone.

    What will work for us depends on myriad factors. How addicted we are, how long we have been addicted, our personal circumstances, our personality, our education, intellect, background, our habbits, discipline etc. etc. etc.

    They build billion dollar casinos with money from people who swore up and down they will never gamble again. I must have sworn a hundred times I will not gamble again. It never worked. A few times I solemnly promised myself I will never gamble again only to gamble 10 minutes later when a friend came online and I was able to get money from him. Some of my solemn and most sincere promises only lasted 10 minutes. How sick is that?

    Day #21 today. Feeling a lot more confident than yesterday

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27440
    jansdad
    Participant

    I really have a big urge now to play “just once”. The only thing keeping me at bay is that I know all too well it will NEVER be “just once”.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27439
    jansdad
    Participant

    Thanks. Day #20 today. I didn’t think this would happen (although I could have expected it), but I do have cravings today. Haven’t had any for a few days, but now they’re back.

    Probably because I watched a friend play poker online. Can I really be so sick that even watching other people gamble makes me want to do the same. After all the horrible things gambling has done to me?
    The truth is I love gamblers, I love socializing with them and being around them. They don’t judge you, they don’t have prejudices, they’re generally a nice, fun bunch.

    But I know it my heart of hearts that I have to give up that aspect too if I want to be gambling free. I know there’s no way I can hang out with those people and not gamble, not give in to my urges with them around. It’s just impossible to be around gamblers and not gamble if you’re a cg.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27437
    jansdad
    Participant

    Checking in, day #19 today

    Starting to feel much better both physically and mentally. Gambling takes so much from us. We lose so much more than money.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27435
    jansdad
    Participant

    Thank you for your input Geordie. What I’ve learned during my long long gambling addiction is that there’s no one right way to tackle it. We’re all different and although we share the same addiction and our stories are similar, there’s no universal way in combating it.

    I also learned that if I have to fight the urge, I’m not doing it right. I know I will lose that fight sooner than later. ‘One day at a time’ might work for you and many others, but it doesn’t for me. For me it doesn’t really matter so much if I gamble 30 days a month or 2 days a month. I will lose maximum I could possibly lose for a given time period.
    And fighting my cravings for 2 weeks and then finally giving in is no better than gambling every day and losing the same amount in the end.
    But that’s me, everyone’s different.

    Some things, like blocking access to funds and banning ourselves from casinos, are universal of course and are a must.
    But tricking our brains successfully into not playing as opposed to having our brain trick us into playing is what varies and is probably different from cg to cg.

    I wanted to gamble on January 1 around 3am when my wife and kid went to sleep. I really had a strong urge and I was sure I would play. I mean what kind of a compulsive gambler wants to gamble a couple of hours into a new year, when most people only start taking their vows and new year resolutions? But luckily I had uninstalled all gambling software and the prospect of reinstalling it triggered this thought in my mind that I really shouldn’t be doing it, that there’s no point in it. Instead I came to this forum, read a couple of posts and then shut down my computer.

    I’ve been ok for the last couple of days and I had no cravings. Even when I thought about gambling it was like I couldn’t understand that I had been a slave to it for so long.
    But I’m not kidding myself. I’m very wary. I’m not congratulating myself and I’m not tapping myself on the shoulder. I’m ok now and I hope I stay this way, but it’s too early to celebrate.

    That book by Allen Carr helped me, I read it 3 times and then gambled extensively after the last time I read it. But it finally starts to sink in now, I think. We will see.

    Only at day #18 today.

    in reply to: gambling has got its grip on me, #28010
    jansdad
    Participant

    Hey wizefox and welcome to the forum. Come here often and read through the stories. You’ll see that you’re not alone in this.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27432
    jansdad
    Participant

    Day #17 today. Feeling good. No urges. It’s no that I don’t think about gambling, but last couple of days when I do think about it it’s like “what the hell was I doing?”

    We’ll see how it goes. Still way too premature to congratulate myself or even get my hopes up.

    Wish you all a peaceful evening.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27431
    jansdad
    Participant

    Day #16 today. I dream of 3 digit counts here. Long way from home.

    Goodnight all.

    in reply to: New here #27960
    jansdad
    Participant

    How true. Remembering the pain is hard if not impossible. And it amazes me how something that brings so much pain, suffering and self loathing doesn’t stick in our mind at least a little bit longer.

    in reply to: On the road to ruin #27429
    jansdad
    Participant

    You should definitely read that book Jen. I got some spare credits on audible.com so if you’re fond of audio books I can send you a copy and you can listen to it. Just email me at …. ***Email Removed for safety reasons***

    I’m on day #15 today. Didn’t even think about gambling today, mostly due to having a busy day and packing up for tomorrow, we’re going back home after a long holiday.

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