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Originally posted by AlwaysTheFish
Originally posted by gamblingsucks
exercising is a great way to feel good, clear your head, regain your focus and keep on track. Its helped me a lot.
It is indeed. I’m too lazy to do any heavy stuff. I bought membership to a gym, but I never go there, just too lazy. But what I do do is I walk a lot. I bought a pedometer and I walk 15-20K steps every day listening to audio books. I’ve been doing it for years, but now I made it my business to make at least 15K steps a day.
And it does help a lot, as you say.
If you dine with the devil, bring a long spoon
Nice work. Keep it going. Another thing I thought of is think a lot of us only regret losing, not gambling. When we win we don’t complain or say I shouldnt have did that { well sometimes } we only say that after we lose. We have to take responsibility and say we want that money. Because most of us are aware of what we are doing. We choose to gamble.If we are to gamble be aware of the consequences and that is losing is inevitable and so is feeling like ****.
Dont push that button/play that hand if youre not prepared to deal with the aftermath.exercising is a great way to feel good, clear your head, regain your focus and keep on track. Its helped me a lot.
Originally posted by AlwaysTheFish
I’ve been playing online poker for over a decade now. Started on Planet Poker and then moved to Party Poker. First 4-5 years were good. Games were easy and I was making 50-70K a year. I knew I was not playing my best game most of the time (because of my gambling addiction), but it didn’t matter that much (even though it should have) – I was able to win in spite of not playing optimally. The other players were even worse. I did nothing to improve my game, nor did I work on my addiction. Around that time live poker games started here in Prague where I currently live and they were easy too. I was able to live an easy life, playing, by today’s standards, a very mediocre poker game.
Fast forward a few years, the games got tougher, the players got better, my urge to gamble got worse and come 2007 I was not able to win any more. But I continued playing anyway, kidding myself that I can still beat the games if I only had discipline…
The truth of the matter is I could no longer beat the games even if I played my A game 100% of the time (which is humanly impossible). There are players out there that CAN beat the games, but I’m not one of them. And there’s very few of them nowadays. 10 years ago, 30% of all the players were winning players. Nowadays it’s fewer than 5%. Everything else goes to the rake.
So, why do I still play, knowing I can never win? Because I’m a compulsive gambler.
When you, Steve, say you can beat all the bookies at sportsbetting I think you’re kidding yourself. But even if you could, it’s only good till your first bad beat, that alone will trigger the real gambler in you and you’ll go and chase that money playing black jack. And it’s not gonna change. William is right, you will never be able to control your gambling. Never! You might be able to find the strenght to totally refrain from it, but you will never be able to control it. Not only will you not be able to control it, but it will get worse. 10 years ago, a few bad beats were not enought to tilt me. Now, a single bad beat and I’m steaming out of my ears. And everyone here, including me, knows that bad beats are part of the deal. Had it not been for good beats and bad beats, had it not been for fluctoations, there would be no gambling. So, I’m thinking to myself, why would I even consider playing when I know a single bad beat (which in inevitable) will cause me to tilt and burn my money… And I don’t have answer to that, other than I am a compulsive gambler.
If you dine with the devil, bring a long spoon
i think we think because weve did it before we can do it again. Because we had good ***** and good memories we link that with gambling and think we can create good ***** and memories again. We cant. Thats why is i said we’re kidding ourselves and living in the past. It may have been fun, pleasurable and exciting at some stage but those days are long gone. We remember or want to remember the good but forget the bad. The awful ***** when realisation sets in that we just lost a years wage for some ppl or more.
Gambling is ****. Sooner you can quit the sooner you will live a good and happy life again. Ive realised that if you think things cant get worse, they most certainly can. A **** of a lot worse.I also cheer for the opposite of what i would have bet on. If i wanted to do a game and dont, and it wins, ill go mental. Bookies cost me once by not paying me out fast enough. Rang up to do a bet, still wasnt in my account. Idiots said call back in a couple minutes and i knew when i was on thje phone a wicket would drop and the odds would drop and it wasnt worth the bet. I felt i was ******* 2k, so I chased the next game and put 7k on new york to beat golden state when up half time said **** it put the whole lot on and ended up losing 17k. Shoulda won 2k and had 19k in account. But my fault I did the bet and chased. I was menatlly sick kept thinking ” if bookies paid me out like they should i woulda won 2k instead i lost 17k } This was 2 days before new years. I said **** this **** should be having fun 2 celebrating new years instead i lose 17k and i shoulda had 19k if the bookies did their job { still couda had 17k if i didnt bet tho, my fault } I stopped for over a year. Started betting again and tbh its been a waste of time and another 25,000 dollars.
Gambling is evil.It will rob you of everything. Your money, sanity, family, livelihood, time, youth, relationships, property, EVERYTHING!!!!!
After a heavy loss, my mind is like a radio non stop negative thoughts that repeat over and over as if it were music. You get hit by shock. It robs you of your energy. I coulda did this or that, I shoulda bet this or that, I was happy, I had this amount etc. Nothing but negativity.( removed by admin)go to 3.09 sec and watch. I had utah to win. Take a look at the score and time remaining and see how the game decided my bet. Stuff like this will happen all the time. I lost a couple k there, losing 2k is nothing comapred to the amounts I have lost one one game { 65k a couple of *****, 50k, 20k etc }
Will always get done in the cruelest of ways guys. End of the day, we dont lose because of bad luck or refs or **** players etc. We lose because we bet. Plain and simple.Originally posted by steve268
Thank you you guys for showing love and trying to get me out of this. I am seeking for help as the demon inside me is not allow me to quit gambling.
Williame, thank you for your care and taking the time to try and fix me. I really appreciate it.
I am well aware of the behaviour of a compulsive gambler and I am all of it. I have also read alot about the mind of a gambler, how they try to chase back their losses, and that is one of my problems. Ever since I blew 50k in 3 days of playing online blackjack, I can never recover. It all started when I try to go from something like $31,990 to try to make it to $32,000 by playing a $10 a hand of online blackjack. And when I lost the bet, I lost $100, then I tried to make back the $100 by uprising the bet amount. Then lost it again. Then at the end, it was $4,000k a hand. (Oh my god, it hurts just to think back how crazy it was). Then I lost 30k in an hour. I was able to use my sports knowledge to grow $300 into 20k again but I ended up blowing it all on blackjack again. Right now in my daily live. When I’m out exercising and playing basketball, I’m checking score constantly. When I am at work, I am checking score, when I am out drinking with friends, I am checking score, even when I’m at a club dancing, I am making live wagers. I really want to know if anyone behaves like me? I am so embarrass to even admit that I do things like this because nobody knows except me.
(1.Admit you are powerless over this gambling addiction and confide in at least one person you trust what’s going on.)
At this point my state of mind would not let me give up on gambling. Unfortunately the people that I trust are the ones I love. And I am ***** to them because if I tell them about this, they will be hurt and disappointed. Of course, those people have already landed me so much money to get me out of loan sharks and other creditors and I don’t want to hurt them anymore. But I can’t control myself. They tell me to find a hobby, like you said. Do exercise. I can’t. I am so ****ed up. I am always checking scores.
(2. Since the online gambling is a main access to your disease, contact the sites you presently are gambling on and ask that you are PERMANANTLY barred from their sites and to close your accounts explaining you have a gambling problem. Not an easy thing to do (I struggled with those emails myself but felt so great and free afterwards) but necessary. Also purchase the software that blocks access to any gambling site and have it installed on your computer (there’s an offer on this site with a code that gives you 50% off the price, so it will be under $40, best money you’ll ever spend). )
My mind at this point is not letting me because I am always able to make thousands in a day from sports gambling consistently. This advise was also given by my former therapist but I would just *** to her that I did but in reality I didn’t do it.
(3. Go to at least one G.A meeting and committ to at least one evening of sitting in and listening with an OPEN MIND. It will open your eyes to the fact that you arent alone (welcome the the compulsive gamblers clubs, you are one of several MILLION compulsive gamblers so you arent alone). The program works, but I must admit that rooms vary, Ive been to rooms that the support is great and gave me positive therapy, and ive been to rooms that just were about reading the G.A book and didnt help me much. You may have to try a few rooms to find the right one that "feels right" for you.)
I tried that for a period of time. But my self-esteem is too high and I am also delusional sometimes. What happens is when I see these people, I am thinking to myself that these people are gambling slot machines, playing cansino games, horse racings, they are nowhere near to the gambling knowledge that I have in winning. When I see these people, I can’t get them to understand what I am going through. I know they are there to help me and we are there to help each other by stopping each other from gambling and encouraging each other to stop. But everytime I am there, I am thinking to myself I shouldn’t be there because I think I am so smart. But in fact, I am not. I just end up losing all my money at the end.
(4. This is the most important one, but take it from someone who was just like you and just did G.A : Find a therapist, hopefully one that specializes in gambling addiction. What Ive learned that G.A kinda misses to a degree is a gambling addiction is an EMOTIONAL disease. I said "no its not, its about the money" when i was in my 20’s". Well, 20+ years later in recover with a gambling addiction specialist therapist, ive learned that it was virtually 100% emotionally based. It was my place to escape, it didnt judge me, it accepted me anytime i needed it and I couldnt live without it. Trust me on this, find a therapist to talk to about it, you will thank me later. Even if you dont think you need it right now, set up an appointment to go see one. We all have emotional issues that arent dealt with that a therapist can help us with. You are going to be suprised over time when you begin to learn about yourself and why you gambled in an uncontrolled matter.)
Everytime I finish seeing a theapist. I would just rush home and gamble again as if I felt that I just wasted each other’s time and effort. I talked to a priest about this and he is constantly asking how I am doing and pray for me but it is not working for me.
(5. Find something simple to take up your time that you used for gambling, such as fishing,bowling.skiing etc. Anything that you find fun that doesnt relate to gambling that can take up your free time and distract your mind from gambling.)
My problem is no matter where I am and what I am doing. I am in the middle of gambling on a game with my mobile device and such.
I know ultimately I have the one to be pro-active to help myself because nobody will be able to stop me from gambling except myself. But sports gambling has gotten so deep in me that it has become a very profitable way of making $, as it is also my interest and hobby that I cannot pull myself out of.hahahaha!!! Did I write this and forget? I swear this could have been me writing this. Dude, youre not alone. You sound like me. Honestly all of it! Even the first post. Man ive been in the exact same boat. Again and youre not alone. the guy who responded 3rd i think saying he lost ova a mill and said you and we have a disease is 100 percent correct. I havnt read everyone else responses yet I will but before i do let me say its not that you/we cant win gambling, its just that we cant keep it and eventually we will lose it all. 100 percent fact. We have a disease. We cant control it. No matter how much we win or bet, we will bet more and more and eventually lose. Dont go with the if only and what if games. It will never be that way and it was never going to be. One way or another, bookies, referees, missed free throws, field goals etc, not getting a bet on in time, not stopping, we will LOSE!We are chasing a pipe dream, many of us are living in the past.
Maybe we were good handicappers one time. Maybe we were successful. Maybe we were just lucky. Now were are not and 99.9999 percent of us never will will be again. Maybe we were always going to end up on a path to destruction it was just a matter of when. I once made over 200,000 dollars gambling. GONE!!!!! Lost it all in a messed up way too. Guess what? got most of it back only to lose it all again. Doesnt matter how much we win at some stage, even years down the track, we’ll give it all up. As long as we are gambling we’re going to be miserable good for nothings who always lose and feel like ****.
Dont get into that fantasy bull**** and say what if, if only. Im around your age as well and have gone through depression, anxiety etc as a result of gambling also. Just because you have suffered for so long and havnt got things the way you want, doesnt mean it will always remain the same.It more than likely will if you dont stop this vicious cycle. In ten years time or twenty, do you want to say gambling got the better of me and i didnt enjoy my glory years and do the things i wanted to do? You can change it. Only you. Give yourself a break man im going to im also going to forgive myself and say you know what we all make mistakes but we should punish ourselves forever but im going to have fun make a good, happy successful life for myself and beat this horrible **** and so are you.
We’re all worth so much more than money. We’re living in the past, choosing to do this **** and let gambling get the better of us. Lets beat it. Lets not let gambling control us or our future like it has the past and present and lets go out and succeed and be happy. Dont go another ten-twnmety years and say ” i was too depressed and driven by money and a rush that I didnt go out, live my life and have fun ”
We have a disease. Lets do our 100 percent best to beat it.