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  • in reply to: Gambling addiction #162134
    Dark Energy
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    hi Lavende,
    28, all your life still ahead of you,
    you can win this fight, just you need to understand it, and plan your way out of it.

    in reply to: Today I hope is the day #162131
    Dark Energy
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    happy for you,
    you have a good start, for me normally I need 2 to 3 weeks to be a functional human being and to start tackling my problems.

    in reply to: Phase II of my life #162126
    Dark Energy
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    Hi Raisingphonix,
    congratulation on your 285 days, only 36% percent can make it to one year, and I am sure you will be one of them.
    you made it to 285 days, so you know what it needs to stay free of gambling and you are doing it really well.

    in reply to: 3rd And Final #162121
    Dark Energy
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    Day#31,

    1287 days left to reach a normal life, it is not like I am holding everything till I reach that mark, but it realistic estimation of the period that I need to recover financially, and in parallel, it is enough time to recover in every aspect of my life, it is a realistic time to rebuild my self after all these years of destruction.

    @Gustave,
    thank you, I am sure you will cross this 1 month’s target and much more, you did a step that I didn’t dare to take yet, which is being open about your addiction to your girlfriend, this is a huge factor for successful recovery.

    @ raisingphonix,
    man you are an inspiration for me, it is really important to me to see the posts of those who made it to long recovery periods. and the posts of those who relapsed including my own relapses.

    when I read your post I can see what 280+ days of recovery look like, and the posts of Kammeer show me what 2.7 years of recovery will do, it is a real example of what I am looking to achieve.

    regarding the numbers and logs, I have a bachelor of engineering and I am working as a project manager, so my work includes a lot of planning and schedules and monitoring the work progress. so I am taking the same approach to my personal life.

    I am taking this recovery as a project, the estimated project duration is 1318 days, I need to achieve a lot within this period, really I don’t have a plan yet for each aspect of my life it is a big mess, I have a plan for staying GF, a plan for the financial part and for the physical helth\ weight loss part. it is a good start but I need to add a lot of sub plans and logs to the other issues in my life it is a total mess as of now.

    some times I am feeling stuck and depressed, but taking one issue at a time and planning my way out of it gives me some relief.

    one more thing, I have divided my life goals into 3 levels.

    level#1: it is staying free of gambling. because this is the base that if I relapse everything will collapse.

    level#2: is to live a normal life. to clear all the mess that I am in right now.

    level#3: to excel in life, to achieve some of my dreams.

    for normal people, level#3 is their level one, but for us, we have two levels to build first before we start working on this level.

    in reply to: 3rd And Final #162056
    Dark Energy
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    Day#30,
    one month mark, looking forward to the next mark ( 45 days)

    in reply to: 3rd And Final #161999
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    Day#29,
    tomorrow I will complete the 1st month, no real progress in general, diet not going well, focus at work is very poor, overall the only progress for the last 29 days is just the count of days. and my debit was reduced by 2.3%, that is it. well, I will be positive and say my mind is now clear the gambling fog and stress from the last relapse are gone. but on the ground, I am still not productive at all at work, and at home, I am wasting a lot of time surfing the net, and I am not sticking to the diet plan so I am still at the same level.

    I need more focus and more productivity.

    in reply to: Today I hope is the day #161691
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    Hi Gustav,
    your post seems to be blocked by the system, I hope someone from the Admins can solve this.
    you posted in my Journal two days ago and that seems to be blocked as well.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by Dunc.
    in reply to: 3rd And Final #161689
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    Hi Kamirr,
    you actually summarized what is gambling all about in this statement “we were searching for things in the wrong place.”
    I was searching for a solution to my financial issues in the wrong place, there are a lot of options around us, options that will give us satisfaction and a sense of accomplishment.

    you wrote, “We all are here for MONEY no matter what we say we are here to win back, I realized the hard way what is the point you have a million dollars when your mental health is fucked.”

    this reminds me of a thought that comes to me 1.5 months ago after I bought a lottery ticket. “i am not addicted to this kind of thing”, but the story is for a while I thought how wonderful it will be if i won. then, I really got this feeling even if I win it will not satisfy me, I will not have the feeling of accomplishment. I will be ashamed to tell my story if it ended like that (a gambling addict who ruined his life, then he won the lottery and turned everything over) . between us, I will be happy to be that winner but will be happier to be the gambler addict who recovers the hard way, the one who recovered mentally and financially gradually I guess such slow recovery will last long, compared with the overnight recovery, even I can bet if I won a million $ I will lose it the same way because I am not ready yet. and we all have stories about families who bailed out their loved ones financially just for them to lose it all again.

    finally thank you Kamirr for your post and your support, I am in this forum for 3 years, and a few members had overcome this addiction, and normally after crossing the 1st year free of gambling we never hear from them, I used to think let me write a post for them to see where they are in their life, it will be a motivation for me to see how they become after such a long period of abstinence, but then I told my self don’t be selfish they overcome this addiction and maybe gambling now is something from the past so don’t remind them with this painful past.
    I really appreciate your posts that come from someone who overcome his addiction and stayed gambling-free for 2.7 years.

    today is Day#25, I really feel this time is different and I really believe I will overcome this addiction this time.
    I know I said it many times before, and I end up relapsing. but there will be one time when this statement will be correct and I hope that that time is today.

    in reply to: First post #161685
    Dark Energy
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    hi losingitslowly,
    don’t beat yourself up for this relapse, it really something from the past and you just need to learn from it, we can’t change the past.
    frankly, I was afraid you will relapse, after reading your post few days a ago, you wrote that your daughter is going on a trip for a few days and you were expecting some hard time fighting the urges during her absence. this is the point that you need to focus on what you could have done to prevent yourself from gambling knowing that you are going to face a situation that will trigger a lot of gambling urges.

    a few days ago I find some patterns in my records when I write something like “thankfully today I had a huge urge to gamble but I overcome them” I found myself relapsing the next day or maximum within a week period.
    relapse is not coming out of the blue, there are some signs that we can detect before the relapse happened,
    it is like we have a certain threshold after which we break, a period between having the money+ the access to the gambling sites+ and the free time to gamble once all these 3 prerequisites are there it is just a matter of time, it is a question for how long we can withstand the urges pressure, from reading my records some times one day some times one week, the inevitable relapse will happen.
    once this resisting period starts I think there is no way back, “at least for me” so this time I am taking extra measures to avoid reaching this high urges pre-relapse period.

    I wrote this in reply to Don a few days ago and I feel it is worth repeating it here:

    “I am quite convinced now with what I am reading about gambling and our brain, it is like we have two distinct ways of thinking. System 1 is automatic, quick, and involuntary. System 2 is effortful, slower, and deliberate.
    gambling comes from system 1 and trying to stop gambling comes from system 2. both are in there in my brain, both are me”

    it is like having two persons inside your head, one of them convinced that gambling is wrong and trying to prevent you from doing it, and the other convinced gambling is a way to make money.
    and you have to help the rational part in you in his fight against the irrational part.

    regarding CBT, I read a book discussing the current treatments for compulsive gamblers, and it looks like MI is the best Motivational interviewing therapy,
    below is a link to the type of therapy that mixes both CBT and MI. which looks like the best approach for the gambler, unfortunately in my case I have ruined myself financially so I can’t afford the cost of therapy, but if you can, why not. it will help.

    in reply to: Today I hope is the day #161622
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    Hi Gustav,
    reading your post is like reading a story about myself, I am a compulsive gambler and my addiction is to day trade forex, crypto, and stock.
    I need to write more but frankly, I took 2 sleeping pills and it start working, I suggest you read my journal you can relate for sure. and you can learn from the relapses that I had.

    honestly from your post, I am not sure where you stand:
    do you still think that you can win money trading? please answer honestly, do you think what you need is to stick to your strategy, to your money management plan and that will give you better odds to win?
    have you tried to stop gambling? I mean have you done anything to stop it, or it is just thoughts?

    in reply to: 3rd And Final #161590
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    hi Kamirr,
    thank you for your kind and motivating post,

    but let me start by saying you did it. a 2.7 years is a great achievement, congratulations you should be proud of yourself.
    out of curiosity, I am wondering how it feels after such a long period, do you still have gambling urges from time to time? do you still have any bad emotions from the wasted time and money during the gambling period of your life? or it becomes part of the past that you rarely think about.?

    I totally agree with you it is a mental health issue the financial part is just one of the symptoms.

    keeping myself busy is great advice, I am trying to do so, but it is hard for me at this stage, I am barely able to focus during work, but on the days where I had this 4 or 5 hr of focus at work, once I am back home I feel so good, it gives me satisfaction, a sense of achievement, to contrary in the days where I am not able to focus (which is most of the days in this period of my life) I feel so bad and depressed. I start to think I have an undiagnosed ADHD!!.

    Telling your brother-in-law is the best thing that you have done, and I think you already showed a commitment toward recovery I don’t think there is any need to hide your addiction from your wife.

    in my case, i am still not able to take this step yet, I know it is very important, and I hope I will have the courage to do it soon.

    anyhow, when we are in the middle of what looks like a hopeless situation. we really need people like yourself to remind us that recovery is possible. and there is hope.

    wish you all the best in your life.
    DE

    in reply to: 3rd And Final #161530
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    Hi Don,
    thanks for your support, and yes the metaphor of mount climbing makes sense.
    but let us face it I have been trying to climb this mountain maybe 30+ times, and I have fallen 30+ times, some of them were very hard, and I can say now I am not starting from the bottom of that mountain I am actually starting from the bottom of the nearby valley.
    I am not where I have started 3 or 4 years ago, I am really below that level financially, and in every aspect of my life, simply I still have the same mess but I am older now by 4 years.

    On the positive side, I am more mature mentally after all these relapses and I am learning from each time I fall,
    what I meant by writing all that timeline of +1300 days is to give myself a realistic goal, a dream that can be achieved if I stayed free of gambling for such period, it makes the daily struggles easier to fight if I aim at that goal. and on the other hand, it keeps me realistic about where I am now, and what will happen if I step the wrong step again. it is like reward and punishment, I am giving myself something to aim at and something to be afraid of.

    in reply to: 3rd And Final #161463
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    Day#22,
    it is nice to see the count is increasing, to be honest, I need to reach day#67 by then I will not have any overdue payments and I will be current with all my bills and payments, after that, I need to plan the next step in financial recovery, but I am calculating if I stayed gamble free I will reach to zero at day#778, after that, I need another 18 months to reach to the very basic and Normal life, that I need to live. it is in a total of 1318 days.
    considering no bad or good surprises a 3 and a half years. is the minimum time to move from the miss that I am in today to a normal life that I need to live.

    it is a very deep hole, I know the odds are against me, and I know I have an 85% chance to relapse within a such long period, but hay it is worth to keep trying.

    how sad it is that “living a normal life” becomes a dream that is hard to achieve.

    I know I have to do a lot of work on myself during that period, there are a lot of wounds that need to be healed, and a lot of mess that needs to be organized within me and around me. it is a long road full of mines any wrong step will put me down so I have to walk it slowly and think deeply before stepping any step.

    in reply to: Gambling and medicine #161386
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    Hi Zack,
    actually, Charles is right you have to ask your doctor about it.
    and I think I am too have undiagnosed ADHD, to be honest, I don’t know if it is one of the reasons why I get hooked on this gambling addiction or if it is the other way around.

    recently I am reading more books about gambling treatment, and I read your post I remembered a paragraph about it in “Treating Gambling Problems” by (William G. McCown, William A. Howatt).
    I will put the paragraph down for your information, finally, your doctor should give you the correct answer.


    Of special note is Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). People
    with ADHD are much more likely to have gambling problems. Clinicians tend
    to avoid stimulants for the treatment of ADHD in gamblers, because many gamblers
    have another addictive disorder. However, evidence from cocaine addiction
    suggests that the pharmacological treatment of ADHD does not cause
    relapse. In fact, aggressive treatment may reduce illicit drug use.
    Excluding cigarette smoking, concurrent substance abuse problems are common
    in as many as 50 percent of people with gambling problems, either presently
    or by history. It makes little sense to treat only the most serious problem and not
    treat the coexisting addictive disorder. All addictive disorders warrant treatment
    simultaneously, regardless of whether there are conflicting bureaucracies
    involved!”

    and

    Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder and problem or pathological gambling
    often appear together, though no one knows why for sure (Petry, 2005b).
    There is no evidence that treatment with stimulant medication, such as Ritalin,
    is associated with relapse. On the contrary, evidence from AOD studies suggests
    that proper treatment of ADHD may help clients to experience fewer relapses

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 6 months ago by Dark Energy.
    in reply to: 3rd And Final #161357
    Dark Energy
    Participant

    Day#21,
    the first milestone is achieved, but I am so depressed today, I got some collection calls, and I need another 45 days to clear all the delayed payments, but damn, just one call is enough to ruin the day, I am trying to focus at work, I am barely able to do that without these calls, then one call comes and ruined the day.

    my life is a complete mess, and I am overwhelmed with the problems. I am so vulnerable and fragile, all my insecurities are popping up in my mind. it is too hard to live with all this mess.

    I know the situation will be better with time but it is too hard now.

    I don’t know why today is too hard for me, I Had the collection calls last week I had the same mess, why today I am so depressed and fragile.
    anyhow I will go to sleep early today hoping tomorrow i will wake up fresh and ready to face this mess.

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